How so? Genuinely, I’d like to know why you think this way.
I’m not okay with any of it, but RMT is a story as old as WoW itself.
That being said, it’s a step in the right direction to keep servers from being cannibalized by GDKP cheaters.
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Do you think the cheaters will ever quit? Or will they always be there?
Like if they removed trade all together, people would still cheat somehow, no?
Why would I RMT for bis? Every time I’ve gone to GDKP’s I’ve been bis or near bis with 0 need to purchase items.
I got my shadowmourne and dbw in my guild raid and when they quit raiding I started GDKPing to prep for Cata. Because I already had bis and could go as a carry and not have to spend gold.
Like, arguably the only time I went to a GDKP and wasn’t bis was the end of tbc SWP’s I went to. My guild never downed M’uru, my only KJ kills came from GDKP and a random guild that paid me to play arms for their run, so it’s not like I had loads of SWP gear. And even then I didn’t buy anything.
And then I made even more gold selling sethekk halls boosts as revenge spec during prepatch than I made doing GDKP’s lol
Because he doesn’t understand economics.
Dumb people swipe for GDKPs.
Private servers never took an aggressive stance on GDKP because there was never any need to. What they could and would do though was aggressively ban not only the gold sellers, but the gold buyers.
Blizzard could easily, but they don’t want to because they make money off of the subs. I find it so bizarre that the rabid anti GDKP crowd are so against something which arguably punishes legitimate players more, rather than try to go after the people who bot and trade gold for real money. It’s absurd.
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That’s because they didn’t have subscriptions being paid for by bots.
To be fair, depending on the server, some of the owners were involved in selling gold and items to players. So it made sense for them to ban bots and gold sellers so they’d get all the business.
Kinda like what blizz tried to do with the token but doesn’t work as well because they don’t crack down on bots.
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That’s a given. It’s an illegally hosted server, after all. But what they demonstrated was that they could very easily detect bots and RMT. Blizzard makes it seem like this impossible task which is unbelievable. They just don’t want to spend the money on the detection and as I already pointed out, they make money off of the subs/resubs when people do get banned.
It’s literally spending money for them to lose money. They aren’t going to gain more real players then bots they remove. On top of the cost to remove those bots, it’s fiduciarly irresponsible of them.
Yeah fair point. Idk it’s not even that you need real detection. For vanilla you could /who Strat /who Blackrock and just go down the list tping to and then banning anyone botting in those instances.
In TBC you could do the same thing with the botanica bots.
I think the thing that frustrates me is how easy it would be clear them out, and it just never happens.
Like what are they gonna do if you just ban every bot farming in instances? Not farm in instances? where it’s super easy to spot them since they have to contest players for nodes/tags?
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Then the argument for “keeping the integrity of the game” from the players clearly doesn’t align with the company who charge us for the product, which is a different issue altogether
It started becoming the only real option for pugging and Blizzard didn’t like that it was pushing out other traditional raiding structures.
Or did everyone on either side ignore the main reasoning in the SoD blue post and focus on RMT instead?
It’s a better option than MS>OS / SR/HR pugs, why would I ever do anything other than GDKP/guild raid on main?
Like if I have the choice of GDKP vs anything else, I’m picking guild raid then GDKP. If those 2 options aren’t available I just don’t raid now. It’s less annoying, and a better use of my game time.
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No it didn’t. There were plenty of SR runs going for pugs, plus a lot of guilds didn’t use the system. That’s just blatantly false.
It’s a company that’s about money.
GDKPs lose them bots since more players are being distributed gold in general. The strength of an economy is it’s ability to move money, GDKP enables a lot more movement and without sinks any gold injected into the system is there forever.
So I got the selfish answer, the person calling me a liar based on anecdotes, and the one claiming blizzard makes money from bots.
Cool, great discussion.
I’ll let yall go back to screaming.
How do they not make money on bots?
I’m selfish? Because I won’t go to pugs that aren’t fun for me to play in?
I’m sorry that I didn’t ask you for how I should play the game that I’m paying 15 a month to access? I guess?
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You also need to organize it.