Can someone explain why GDKP is so hated?

This isn’t about me. The issue is your claim that pugs are useless unless there’s gold involved.

“Your” pugs? What are you talking about?

Only those people who feel entitled to walk away with something every time they raid.

Why? The issue has nothing to do with me or anyone else posting on an alt. All you want to do is pick apart someone’s history. Oh look you trash player, your guild never did such -and-such, or, You died soaking on three different fights . . . hahahaha!

That’s what you do. You pick apart how people play, make them out to be garbage players, and then claim they don’t have a right to disagree with you.

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You do have the right to disagree, its just an odd thing to dispute, pugs suck.

Youre sitting here trying to debate this when the people in the pug pool which is players like you and the antis cant even do the content in their MAIN RAIDS.

Thats the issue, full stop.

Sure it isnt an issue in era for the most part, well until AQ40 rolls in, after BWL and even during BWL pugs suck, wait til TBC.

Arguing over this is stupid, im arguing with people who cant even do the content in their MAIN RAIDS yet are saying its ok that gdkps arent in the game because you can just pug it a different way lmfao.

It has nothign to do with gold, or maybe it does, maybe the people who pug in gdkps just take it more serious because of gold, i cant say why its different other than the people i play with in those pugs are just vastly superior to the players in other non gdkp pugs.

Like you keep acting confused when i say “your pugs”, im clearly saying the pugs all the antis are part of, those people are part of the pugs that are now available thanks to the ban. Those pug runs are TERRIBLE.

Just wait till AQ/Naxx are out, pugs cant even clear MC just like the 3 hour log and 3 Rag wipe pug i linked, they couldnt even kill Rag lmfao. Thats the pug filled with people like the antis and thats who people like me dont want to play with.

We arent going to make alts.

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One more time Drink because you obviously have preconceived notions about me in spite of what I’ve said: I am NOT a pug player. I have pugged, just like a lot of others when we can’t make our raid times etc.

See?

You can say “see” all you want.

Imagine arguing with someone who cant even do the content they are tellign you to now pug lmfao.

It makes no sense, you can play victim all you want.

You guys say its rmt or swiping yet the pug runs are doing the content most of you cant even do in your main raids lmao.

Make it make sense man

To the antis its a dislusional take of rmt and gold, to us its a pug system with better players that can full clear all the content most of the antis main raids cant even do.

Yall are wild.

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I already told you what my guild did. And it shouldn’t matter anyway. GDKPs are for swipers and money launderers. That’s just a fact and the only one that matters.

If you or your awesome guild full of awesome players can’t put a good pug together, that’s on you. And that’s also a fact.

It isnt about what my guild can put together its about my schedule that week.

Which is what discord gdkps did.

Had 30+ quality pugs weekly.

Naw thats your opinion of it and thats it.

I did gdkps and im none of those things, youre already wrong.

Trust me bro

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If you did GDKPs and took part of the pot, you’re laundering gold. The end.

Source “Trust me bro”

Seems to be the most common form of evidence from you.

My guild did the content- Trust me bro

Gdkps only launder gold- Trust me bro

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So now you’re back to denying that GDKPs and RMT are directly linked. :neutral_face:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKqrjbnZX7A&t=504s

Im not denying it at all, where did i say that?

YOU said

Which is FALSE, it is not only for swipers and money launderers.

Youre factually wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XBKEzwt2JA

No gdkps btw, kekw

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What color is the sky in your world? They are swipers and launderers and it’s disgusting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKqrjbnZX7A&t=504s

You’re in total denial.

No one is in denial.

That is EVERYWHERE youre acting like its a gdkp only thing.

Sorry gdkps are banned and its still MASSIVE, there is no reduction.

YOURE in DENIAL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XBKEzwt2JA

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Again you misquote me. Never said that.

You encourage RMT with your gold laundering. That is a fact. You can try to turn this into whatever you like, but in the end that’s what you’ve done.

Youre doing that with ALL GOLD, what are you not getting lmfao.

You simply stating that GDKPS do it so its bad is stupid.

You wanna know how you know if somethign is actually bad, ask yourself this 1 question.

“If i removed all bots and rmt would gdkp still exist”?

Apply that question to anything and thats how you know if something is actually bad.

Youre using GDKPS as a scapegoat and nothing else, its the boogieman but it isnt actually the issue because if you removed all the bad illegal parts of wow gdkps would STILL exist because its goal has nothing to do with rmt and laundering gold.

Same way pro gdkps use the AH as a counter point, if rmt and bots were gone would the AH be bad?

The AH is inherently not bad, just like gdkps.

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Source: Trust me bro

GDKP guild leads pay real money in order to get bigger gold spenders into their GDKP runs. In order to stand out in the discord you want a star - so you pay $30 per day. There’s a real money method in order to get bigger gold spenders in your GDKP. Guilds pool loads of gold, split it between their members and they in turn go out and buy their gear, gearing up very quickly at the beginning of the expansion.

And so you’re all geared, and now you just make the gold and spend it on your alts.

A large chunk of GDKP leads sell gold so they make their money back anyway. That’s the way GDKPs work.

GDKPs are corrupt, by definition. They should be banned. Gold buyers and sellers should be hard permabanned. Blizzard should ban bots immediately on detection and stop selling tokens.

Nothing I haven’t said before.

Bro rmt gold is mixed into everyones gold, there is no “trust me bro” thats just fact. Unless you literally never sell anything on the AH or to any player, if you do you have rmt gold in your pockets.

What in the actual hell are you talking about? There is no way you think this is how the majority of gdkps are ran? Like youre actually so wrong i dont even know how to respond to this withouth laughing.

Again there is 0% chance you think this is the majoirty of gdkps, this is the issue with you guys, you see something corrupt and apply it to everything, because you see some crazy outlier gdkp youre now applying it to everyhting associated with gdkps.

Literally not even close.

So many stupid things you have said here but this 1 is truly idiotic, break down what gdkps are.

It uses the IN GAME currency to bid on items, its literally an auction house for raid loot, there is nothing corrupt about it until you throw in illegal things to make it corrupt.

Its truly fascinating to see such a strong opinion of something from a different perspective and have it be so twisted and wrong that it actually makes you scratch your head, like are you a real person?

Youre a whole different level of crazy.

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When you participate in GDKPs, you are intentionally encouraging RMT. You can try to rationalize it all you like, but that’s exactly what you’re doing.

This: https://youtu.be/AKqrjbnZX7A?t=286

I’m not the one rationalizing corrupted behavior or denying facts.

By your logic the AH is only there to launder botted items.

There is nothing innocent about it, it’s 100% corrupt.

Oh I know what you meant that’s the same 1 EVERYONE links when they bring up that single outlier, it’s like bringing up the same Gressil 6 years later.

Notice how it doesn’t change? Almost like it’s an extreme outlier to what actually happens?

You are literally talking to someone who’s guild ran the largest gdkp discord in most likely all of classic with over 2,000 members and that’s not how literally any of that is done in 99.9% of gdkps.

You won’t listen to that tho, those extreme outliers are now your norm

I’m not denying that gdkps can have a corrupted side to them, you’re the 1 denying they have an innocent side to them, you’re so insane you can’t even see it anymore.

I have said this over and over everything with gold has a corrupted side, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have an innocent side to them.

It’s actually insane that you can’t see how crazy you sound

Your extreme prejudice to things has blinded you.

Herbing and mining promote bots, let’s get rid of herbs and ore.

The ah promotes bots and rmt, let’s get rid of it.

Gold promotes rmt and bots, let’s get rid of it.

Having innocent systems being corrupted by something bad doesn’t mean you throw away the thing that was innocent.

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It’s a fact

Yes, it’s called sock puppeting and it’s easy AF to spot

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Yep people who hate GDKP are too lazy to farm a minor amount of gold, we know.

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