Can someone explain why GDKP is so hated?

I have by cancelling both of my subs last month. That and being a nuisance here.

The funny thing is there will be no good pugs, tons of gold buyers (since no gdkps to farm with), and the game will totally collpase by the end of bwl.

Then anti-gdkp players will say that’s the natural state of things.

Fresh coulda had tons of pug raids and opportunities for new players all the way through naxx. But y’all banned the only system that incentives good and geared players to raid in pugs.

So I guess Era will be poppin again faster.

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For some reason a weight just lifted.

…but I’m sorry to see you go!

Aight, I’mma hold you to that.

That’s just one, I scrolled down like 10 posts.

people have been conditioned to take all their frustrations with RMT and project it on innocent GDKP raiders :expressionless: that’s the truth

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That’s part of it, I think the other part is that GDKPs communities value smooth runs and the leaders will check logs (bad players will annoy carries and make it way harder for leaders to make runs in the future)

Thus players that don’t play properly are upset that they do not get invited and think it is because they lack gold.

Which is why you almost never see any anti-gdkp player willing to show logs. (the ones that do tend to be player that benefit from guild structure and want to force players into that system - like officers and guild leaders).

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No, you’re inferring. I never said they weren’t doing anything. I’m saying they’re not doing enough.

It’s weird to me that you’d have to ask this. I thought it was obvious. GDKP has a lot of benefits over other loot systems. You probably already know this. I don’t want to see a perfectly fine and for some the best loot system go away because of cheaters. That sucks for the non-cheaters who want to use that loot system. It would be better if they could deal with the cheaters without effectively punishing the non-cheaters.

People act like dealing with the cheaters is some impossible pie in the sky thing. I don’t buy that. I don’t buy it because I’ve seen time and time again Blizzard prioritizing profits over the quality of their products. I don’t buy it because Blizzard decided to do mass layoffs with their support department after record profits. It seems the more money they make the less they reinvest into the quality of their games. And even more mind boggling is their customers seem to eat the tauren :poop: that they’re being fed with smiles on their faces.

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I never said gdkp has no benefits… Kind of straw man.

The problem is it also benefits RMT…so…thems the breaks.

Maybe you’ll have better luck by convincing your fellow players to stop buying gold. Go after the buyers as you say!

The mindset of the average person trying to defend GDKP in these forums is something like this: “You cannot prove beyond any doubt that RMT is happening in my opinion, therefore banning GDKP is unjust.”

I’ve seen this over and over in different situations. People think that because you don’t have their idea of proof you can’t find them or whatever guilty.

GDKP for the overwhelming part = RMT. Blizz has the data to prove it. Feel free to pretend otherwise and scream all day. Go swipe some more, you’ll feel better…

RMT is happening, everyone knows it. The point is the GDKP ban is them pretending to do something about RMT.

You idiots just eat it up. The bots and RMT still exists regardless. Always will when, you can buy bis items, buy consumables, buy riding training, buy materials for profession leveling. And they don’t punish for botting/RMT, so that helps it still exist to.

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No one is saying that the GDKP bad solved the RMT problem. Sounds like someone is trying to build that straw man over and over though. The ban affected RMT. Getting on here and calling people names because swiping got nerfed isnt the answer.

It didn’t though. RMT and botting is still going strong on SoD, it’s already in full swing on fresh.

Because, like I said, they don’t stop the bots, and don’t give serious bans for RMT.

The GDKP ban is literally just, a do nothing change without the rest of it.

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Talking to RMTers I mean GDKPers is like talking to a rock. They are trying to convince us that banning GDKP had no effect, which is ludicrous. Yes, RMT will always have an outlet, but pretending that steps to discourage it accomplish nothing isnt helping anyone, including you. Try to be honest, it’s not that hard…

Yeah that’s how I feel explaining to you that the amount of gold from RMT might have changed but it’s still going strong, the same swipers still swiping so they can raid log without farming.

Like, idk why this is so hard to understand? There might be less per transaction but the # of transactions hasn’t really changed. The RMTers were already doing it without GDKP. We’ve known they’ve been doing it for 20 years lmao

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Implying that RMT and GDKP are synonymous while asking others to be honest, ah the irony.

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Yeah day is night, black is white, we believe you. Shoo now goodbye.

GDKP anti and being disingenuous, name a more iconic duo from the last month.

I’m just glad they banned gdkp now all the RMT is gone except all the massive RMT going on

You just admitted it changed something. See, that wasn’t so hard, you were doing fine until you resorted to Ad Hominem. Bye.

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Congrats on your gotcha I guess. Meaningless change is a change you’re right. Enjoy your RMT infested servers, it’s just like the others.