I think I recall druids talking about that back in the day.
yeah itâs most efficient for ferals to use a mix of resilience and defense to become uncrittable
I have a few but they are mineâŚALL MINE I SAY!!!
Never understood fury prot really. I mean the best part of being Prot is smashing someoneâs face with a Shield. You play Prot to live the Way of the Shield.
Impale Prot makes sense, as the Arms tree enhances your Prot Power, where Fury Prot takes it away.
Gorfiend is kind of a bad example since the fight is centered around the ghosts and the rest of the raid for success.
Not going 31 points into prot is a huge mistake. Shield slam is the highest threat ability for warriors and it scales off BV.
Yeas resilience and Def stats are interchangeable, I canât remember if they are a 1:1 trade or you need more resilience to equal 1 def.
Imagine calling Prot War a gimmick tank in TBC 
Prot Warriors are still the best mitigation tanks and the best single target main tank, period. Prot Pal is a good Aoe tank and good for farming old content for gold. Druid is good overall too but both have weaknesses compared to Prot War who is still the Iconic big boi tank.
Itâs only good for a Druid to substitute Resil instead of Def because Druids donât benefit from parry or block stat from Def. So Resil is cheaper, easier and makes more sense.
Bingo Shield Slam is thee single biggest threat and damage a Prot warrior can do. In fact if specced right Shield Slam is the highest damage ability a warrior can do and one of the hardest hitting attacks in TBC. Think many donât realize Shield Mastery boost the offense portion of Shield Slam it doesnât say it in the tool tip but it does. Also one hand weapon specialization increases SS by 10% too. There are tons of ways to scale SS dmg with BV making it is fun to see big crits and you never will lose threat.
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A Prot Warrior can ALWAYS push crushing blows off the table in ANY set of gear with the exception of parry hasting and even then thatâs rare to get crushed. That is because they get enough block + avoidance through base stats and talents alone when used with Shield Block. Even if things do go wrong, a Prot Warrior has Last Stand and Shield Wall. Iâm sorry but Prot Warrior is going to be the better MT with the only exception being fast hitting bosses. By the time you outscale the Warrior in tps in T6, the Feral Druid will be doing far more tps anyways with insane dodge and armor, so you will still not be the best MT in most cases. At least you will be the best MT in WotLK Classic.
you CAN but doenst mean you should
You are really getting high on the copium arenât you? The best MT is Warriors and then Druids later on once they outscale Warriors. You only see Paladin MTs on a few fights later on because there is a gimmick that screws over Druids and you want a Pally for AoE tanking, so you might as well use the Pally to MT that boss.
No. Arms/Prot is doable though. Youâll bring Blood Frenzy, Imp Thunder Clap, Imp Demo Shout, and MS decreased healing. Youâll be the guy tanking every boss that requires spell reflect or a second tank. Otherwise youâll be doing bad dps with a 2-h to buff your huntards and feral druids.
From talents you lose the 6% spell damage reduction and 30% bonus to shield block value by not being deep Protection (Although itâs not that important without Shield Slam).
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Never said Paladin was the best MT. Maybe you are continuing an argument you were having with someone else with me? I was specifically proving that your statements about Paladins having a difficult time achieving uncrushable in P1 was complete pap.
You seem to need to prove that warriors are still the best MT in TBC to anyone who will listen. All the tanks are completely capable of that role with each having specific fights they excel at. People can play what they want and do just fine. Warriors are no longer the kings of tanking, in TBC there doesnât have to be a king.
Oh dang. Yea Iâve seen the greens the beta toons get and there is no way a bear can tank in that and expect to live lol. Especially if the healer is equally as poorly geared.
Heroic so he was 70, just not well enough geared for that. (also not a boosted / template) he leveled.
17k HP raid buffed is pretty low for a prot warrior, I see you linked a diff log showing just how quickly a tank can get dumpstered though. Looking at the amount blocked, this seems off were they running Gnomergan auto blocker or was that just stacking SBV instead of other miti stats?
I have no idea thatâs a screenshot I had in a folder from 14 years ago. Also, they got hit for 25,000 between those three melees.
The point is even with a shield on tanks can die super fast on a lot of TBC bosses. Dual wield is pretty much right out.
Ding ding, we have someone who knows wtf theyâre on about. Pdigeon Holing tanks into specific role (MT,Trash etc) is futile as ALL tanks are required for raids and weâre going to be seeing prot warriors sharing the limelight alot more than they did in OG TBC.
Warriors get Spell Reflect and soft enrage bosses,
Paladins get AoE and Parry Hasted Thrashers,
Druids get noncrushing heavy hitters,
There are very few ârequirementsâ and even those can usually be worked around.
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Paladin MT > Feral MT > Warrior MT.
Paladin:
- Effectively has highest DMG reduction in a general sense.
- Deals significantly more ST DPS/TPS over a Warrior, not including AoE.
- Effectively both an AoE Tank and a Main Tank in the same gear with the same Talent build.
- Provides Blessing of Sanctuary, therefore allowing Holy Paladins to take a more standard build.
- Can Cleanse while tanking.
- Can break boss mechanics with Divine Shield.
- Improved Expose Armor does not interfere with threat gen.
Warrior:
- Has Spell Reflect, can use it to speed up some encounters, necessary for others.
- Has Shield Wall⌠with a long⌠long⌠long cooldownâŚ
- Has Shield Block (Illidan).
I donât remember the rule on how Sanctuary Stacks with Stoneskin Totem, so ignore this if you want.
The bottom line with Warrior is that he is 100% dependent on Spell Reflect to be useful as a tank.
ANY SITUATION, where Spell Reflect is not a factor, Warrior is the worst tank and itâs not even close.
The reason Warrior specs Prot is for the extra TPS from Shield Slam and Devastate. Because Spell Reflect generates⌠basically infinite threat, there is no real benefit to speccing into Prot. Spec into Arms and wear Tank gear when you need to Spell Reflect stuff.
Because the Warrior is specced Arms, he canât Main Tank at all.
Therefore, Warrior is the worst MT in Burning Crusade.
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