yeah i utterly disagree
Tell that to someone that cares. I dont. Ive given arguments as to why they arent needed that are based on that it just forces you into a certain presence.
It has always forced you into a certain presence, and you shouldnt just bring something back based on the exception to the rule.
Survivability is not that big of a problem. Its not some overwhelmingly popular topic on the forums or anywhere else. The Dk has tools already for survivability and mitigation. If you need to use IBF so often then its probably you doing something wrong. Sorry, but its true. The content cant be designed around the people with the best defensives in the game or else those with the worst would never be brought.
The only problem i have is that it doesnât seem like a 4 second cd reduction to FWF is going to be enough to shift icecap much higher than it currently is right now. Maybe if it was 8 seconds? Because over the course of like, a raid fight or something you may only get 1 extra FWF which, while its nice, itâs only maybe 1 extra cast if youâre lucky
Wouldnât fix it imo, because dual wield would just run another enchant as well. So 2h would still be behind.
if you dont mind me asking, do you actually play wow? im looking at your armory and you have basically nothing. 207 ilvl, nothing enchanted, empty gem sockets, no keys, no pvp, only did LFR 4 times. i have alts i dont play in better condition than you.
how can you sit here and comment on a class you donât even play while pretending to be some expert?
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I wanna know as well
Guys letâs not mess with her like that
Presences back and updated for more modern use would be very beneficial for our play style. For pvp letâs say blood pres gets baked into et via a tale t so we donât need to switch ut I donât want that cuz enemies pulling thier hair out trying to fight us should be the point right
Thatâs the thing. Updated how and how would you make it so each one isnt better yhan the other where you just wouldnât sit in it?
What is in game already that would be like presences? Paladin auras.
Crusader aura could be baked in and they all be removed and the vast majority would never know.
she sort of brings it on herself
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i dont like auras cuz they effect everybody i just want to make myself better
and if we are gonna give out a buff abominationâs might would be a nice one
as for updating
frost pres
increses str by 10%
unholy movement speed by 15% haste 15%
blood stam my 10% armor by 55% reducing damage by 8%
rank 1
improved presences reduces cc time and being effected by CC by 15%
reduces gcd by .25
Frost pres
increases the chance for rime and KM by 7%
unholy pres
blood pres
rank 2
reduces cc time and being effected by CC by 30%
reduces gcd by .5
frost pres
increases the chance for rime and KM by 14%
i dont know that unholy n blood want but thats the just of it
what would you want for unholy pres and rank 1 and 2 of improved unholy pres
like more apoc procs
more mage punk procs
Presences are the antithesis of auras. Presences are selfish, but why not just bake what you are asking for in the class or respective spec?
The increased chance at km and rime, they would just reduce the base chance to be lower so when you get the improved version its what we have now. Blizzard has been doing this already so its not some far-fetched hypothesis.
So what is making it so i wouldnt want to sit in a presence? If im just going to sit in frost presence for 10% St and increased km and rime procs what would they others provide me that would be of equal value?
With your suggestions 99% of the people would pick a presence and sit in it. The very reason they got rid of it.
lets start with i dont want ranks, thatâs just taking away to give back later in a false sense of progression. nobody spends months leveling anymore, we get that done in a weekend and then sit at level cap for 2 years. you could remove leveling from wow entirely and most of the playerbase wouldnât even notice.
more procs means more RNG. we need less RNG procs and more static playable setup.
at minimum i would like to see a 15% movement speed buff and a 1.0 sec GCD from unholy pres.
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i dont want ranks either but this team seems to like doing it so
improved unholy pres could reduce the rng of something
since i dont play unholy what rng part of your rotation would you like reduced
give me something that would make you happy to see then
make a suggestion
unholy presence wonât give blood tap back. its the removal of RNG procs from resource and playstyle entirely i want. no sudden doom, no runic corruption, no procs that turn your wet noodle into a nuke. and not just my abilities, but everyoneâs. nobody should ever win a duel or arena match because of RNG.
take resource regen, atm its RNG, you spend RP and maybe you proc runic corruption, maybe you donât.
compare that to blood tap where you spend a static amount of RP to get a static amount of blood charges which you spend a static amount of with blood tap to generate a static amount of runes.
I would approach it a little differently:
-Baseline Glacial Advance
-Remove useless hypothermic pres and replace with Frost Whelps
-I like your Chill Streak change:
âRemove from PvP talent pool; additionally, change ability to be able to bounce off the casting DK to provide a shield equal to 25% of the damage lasting 8 seconds that would have been dealt to an enemy if only one enemy is in range (explained more below)â
-Frostscythe Rework: I would have Frostsythe replace obliterate completely when chosen. I need to think this through more because that would be very difficult to balance. All obliterate interactions would stay intact? Would give us a Machine gun build option.
-Buff Icy Talons: stacks 4 times and buff raid by 3% or something.
-Buff Deathâs Reach: Increases range and provides 2 charges.
-Wraith Walk baseline: Replace with new talent: Walkers Husk - Reduces damage 100% in pvp and 50% in pve when used. Fits damage mitigation theme better.
-DKs need better physical damage mitigation. Buff IBF, Permafrost, Death Pact or lichborne.
1st Row (Level 15): Unchanged (IT buffed)
2nd Row (Level 25): Unchanged
3rd Row (Level 30): Unchanged (Deathâs Reach buffed)
4th Row (Level 35): Unchanged (FS changed mechanically)
5th Row (Level 40) : Permafrost - Walkers Husk - Death pact
6th Row (Level 45): Gathering Storm - Frost Whelps - Chill Streak
7th Row (Level 50): Unchanged
Iâve given it plenty of times. New 2 cost rune ability, obliterate becomes only usable with KM, Frostscythe replaces the 2 rune spender for cleave.
I like what youâre saying
Personally disagree with this one though. I like that the magic damage mitigation is a niche of DK and wouldnât change that personally.
Now that blizz has decided to make the set bonus a bandaide rather than giving us a baseline aoe spender, this isnât going to happen.
Unless they come up with another set bonus redesign, weâre stuck until 10.0.
I like frost, but my god are the talents awful. The kit also forces frost to fall off like a rock the higher you go in M+.
Redesign ice cap, provide baseline aoe spender, potentially make BoS baseline or donât force frost into it as the only form of competitive damage, stop giving RW so much power/weight through conduits and talents. Until theses are done frost has no build flexibility and will remain mid tier for cleave and bottom barrel for single target.