Can Blizzard come clean with us about 9.1 please?

Exactly. There should be more raids, dungeons, BG’s, Areanas, Questlines, collectibles, more frequent balance updates, and better solo content to do (torghast/maw/anima grinds) for a game that costs this much and that is THIS BIG. It’s quite appalling tbh.

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Huh that’s some good stats. Damn then if thats the case they really did make the teir a bloody long one what the hell. I guess they’ve done it so the higher end raiders are satisfied for longer, but In what world is a raid teir meant to take that long though? Taking 6 months to complete a single run of a raid is insane.

Maybe it’s different for heroic because that’s what I do/follow and most heroic peeps I know have stopped raiding or are just doing farming now.

They were doing pretty good with communication before the launch of Shadowlands. A couple of months prior to it releasing. I remember giving kudos several times. It was just overall beneficial for everyone. More so with the engagement with the community. It has been pretty quiet lately…

The doomsday approach to shadow-lands by the community, has been right on par with the rest of 2020 and 2021.

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You do know almost every single mid-tier raid(s) are ~6 months and considered normal right?

Eternal palace was 6 months.

Tomb of Sargeras was 6 months.

Etc.

IMO shortening the first tier, or all the tiers, just extends the final patch drought even further. Like Wrath, MoP, and WoD all having final tiers of > 1 year.

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Exhibit A is the devs clearly knowing what people hate about Shadowlands because they made April Fools Day jokes about them, but refuse to actually fix them.

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Why are you so sure it’s the Devs that made it and are refusing to do anything about it? haven’t done anything yet and/or not liking what’s been done is vastly different than refusing to do anything.

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I’m not sure that will happen. We all still want to know what happen with WoD. lol

What have the devs done to fix the basic class design issues we have been complaining about since Legion?

What have the devs done about slow trickles of mediocre content that came with BFA and got even slower in SL?

What have the devs done about the near universally hated lack of flying at level cap that has been complained about since WoD?

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Not much they can do. Way too high a percentage of this game’s player base can’t handle their current rotations/ utility. Unless they go back to designing hello kitty adventure island levels of difficulty, it doesn’t work.

Or have you missed all the threads about “SL being too hardz.”

When do you remember content coming out faster? TBC? When they released everything 6 months in, then let the game sit with nothing for nearly a year? How is that better?

Content was faster in literally every expansion prior to SL.

WoW is far too costly to have content droughts, bad balance, and boring classes.

BC, Wrath, MoP, WoD all went 8-12 months without content.

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None of that was acceptable either. Even with all of those content droughts the first content patch was not this long in coming. And class design was MUCH better.

WoW devs have cut every corner they possibly can.

Blizzard just doesn’t want us to have flying yet

Depends on opinion. They have tried tiers that lasted 4 months. They have added mini-raids mid tier. Both received mixed feedback. They have tried non traditional content. Players either complain about it being forced or not rewarding enough.

Again, your opinion. Either way, the content itself has gotten progressively more intricate. Most players can barely handle the current rotations while trying to dodge.

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Don’t ever call someone who doesn’t have the same knowledge as you lazy. :\ That’s a really horrible mindset to have. People don’t even know what they don’t know - how can they realize they need to look for something they didn’t even know happened?

You speak emptiness like politicians: can you please elaborate?

IronForge DarkBrew spews across laptrop

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Thought I’d refresh memories on past major patch release dates:
(please correct me if anything is incorrect-ty)

TBC -Jan 16 2007
Patch 2.1 May 22 2007 The Black Temple
Patch 2.2 Sep 25 2007 (Voice Chat implemented)
Patch 2.3 Nov 13 2007 The Gods of Zul’Aman
Patch 2.4 Mar 25 2008 Fury of the Sunwell

WotLK Nov 13 2008
Patch 3.1 Apr 14 2009 Secrets of Ulduar
Patch 3.2 Aug 4, 2009 Call of the Crusade
Patch 3.3 Dec 8 2009 Fall of the Lich King

Cata Dec 7 2011
Patch 4.1 Apr 26 2011 Rise of the Zandalari
Patch 4.2 Jun 28 2011 Rage of the Firelands
Patch 4.3 Nov 29 2011 Hour of Twilight

MoP Sep 25 2012
Patch 5.1 Nov 13 2012 Landfall
Patch 5.2 Mar 5 2013 The Thunder King
Patch 5.3 May 21 2013 Escalation
Patch 5.4 Sept 10 2013 Siege of Orgrimmar

WoD Nov 13 2014
Patch 6.1 Feb 24 2015 Content (WowTokens, BE models)
Patch 6.2 Jun 23 2015 Fury of Hellfire

Legion Aug 30 2016
Patch 7.1 Oct 25 2016 Return to Karazhan
Patch 7.2 Mar 28 2017 Tomb of Sargeras
Patch 7.3 Aug 29 2017 Shadows of Argus

BFA Aug 13 2018
Patch 8.1 Dec 11 2018
Patch 8.1.5 Allied Races
Patch 8.2 Jun 25 2019
Patch 8.2.5 Sep 24 2019
Patch 8.3 Jan 14 2020

SL Nov 23 2020
Patch 9.1 ?

(source: Wowpedia.com)

Just temper your expectations. Expect it to be abysmally horrific and then be pleasantly surprised when it’s only abysmal. Make some lemonade!