This doesn’t help you at all the way you think it does. First up we’re not talking about someone who has a 584 rolling on another 584, or someone with a 571 rolling on a 584 upgrade. We’re talking about people who have a 619 that are rolling on a 584. Going from a 619 to a 584 is NOT an upgrade at all and runs counter to their own words. So again sorry but you’re wrong on this one. Even the wording of the need description doesn’t back you on this one.
Wrong again. Simply because something CAN happen doesn’t make it right. They had no business rolling on it to start with if they had better, regardless of whether I won the roll or some other guy.
Because the system allows for scalping something that they never would’ve had otherwise. Which is theft in this instance. You won’t change my mind that it’s wrong.
Note for UPGRADES and sideways progression. It does NOT intend for downgrades and nabbing items people don’t need. You can say “it’s your opinion” all you want except their own words do not back you. Their own descriptions make clear what the need roll is for as does that blog. So no amount of you twisting it will confer correctness on you in this instance.
They designed the system from the ground up in a way that makes players eligible to roll need on specific items. I don’t care how much it hurts your feelings, their intent is you can roll need when you can roll need.
This is false. Had a rogue need on a 2/6 Hero helm while he had a 6/6 Tier set helm.
The system is broken and abused. You should not be able to need on a slot if you have a higher ilvl equipped or in your bad as people like to swap gear.
This is only possible if he was rolling on a different item or the item had a tertiary upgrade. That is intended design, and a very sensible one at that.
You can. Since the off-piece unlocks the appearance for alts that use the same armor type, having the tier appearance doesn’t preclude you from rolling for it. Only if you have the off piece at the same iLvL or higher.
I wasn’t really trying to. This is a public forum, I argue as much for 3rd party readers as I do for whoever I’m responding to you. I really don’t care if your mind is made up or not. But I’ll be honest, it sounds to me like the discussion you want to have and the one I want to have are different. I’m not interested in quantifying how much anyone needs an item in a video game or to what extent players are obligated to sacrifice in the name of someone else’s progression. What I’m concerned with is people trying to create extra rules for how loot is distributed. Because any time you have a system where the goals to get loot and the goals to enter content and down a boss don’t align, you’re going to get bad player behavior. As a rule I’m reflexively hesitant to change anything about the game without reason. You certainly haven’t convinced me that there’s reason to change need/greed yet.
How long has this new need/greed system been in place? If Blizzard had a problem with the current rules as established in such a fundamental way, why haven’t they changed it yet? They have the power to do so.
And I don’t care how much you think you’re entitled to roll need on items and scalp them when you have better. You should be banned for it no questions asked. Because first it makes you tool to do that, and second you’re trolling another person. Just because something is possible doesn’t confer correctness on it. or are you going to say that the infinite bee spawning at the start of the expac was okay even though people exploited it?