Calling it Body 1 & Body 2 feels objectifying

[Decration-moon-guard]

@Thallia-sentinels

My god you people will fake outrage over anything.

You’re the one with enough to press the caps key.

[Thallia-sentinels (Thallia)]

@Estalayia-borean-tundra

I find it lazy pandering to appear to be “gender neutral”

I don’t see any pandering. I see Dracthyr having four body types that might eventually carry over to other different body types for others. I see an easy way of coding ng things on the updated engine.

@Decration-moon-guard

You’re the one with enough to press the caps key

Emphasis isnt outrage. You’re the one who made yet another troll thread on this stuoid topic.

[Rikira-caelestrasz]

@Raiimir-stormrage

But not all games are hyper political or even have deep social commentary. Like Super Mario Bros. is just a silly platformer.

Yes this is also true

But most adult/teen focused games are gonna have mature themes which includes politics. Also if you buy a Game with “War” in the title expecting it to be non political don’t know what to say

[Akston-area-52]

@Decration-moon-guard

1000000000000% agree, but it’s the focus you put on it when you do and I see all kinds of people praising this as some kind of ‘definitive’ cure to identity expression, so I look at it for a brief moment from this perspective and bam.

I barely see anyone praising this.

I see a lot of people like you blowing this out of proportion. I thought we were over the fad of complaining about this particular issue.

@Decration-moon-guard

I am the OP. And I won’t be the only one.

You aren’t. A lot of people have blown this out of proportion. I am sure more will. THats what people do here.

Make mountains out of mole hills.

@Decration-moon-guard

I see others wanting to turn it into a complicated conundrum.

You are literally doing this. You are making this issue more complicated than it needs to be by making this thread.

@Dîzzy-hyjal

Blizzard was the one that made a stink over it first, to be fair. It was never an issue until THEY made it an issue.

Did they really cause a stink over it? They just…did it.

I dont think its creating a stink over something if you just do it.

@Decration-moon-guard

I don’t, others do.

I havent seen anyone ask for 200+ different body shapes.

@Decration-moon-guard

I don’t, others do.

Where?

@Decration-moon-guard

This is what I’m trying to say, it drives me crazy when I see others like myself practically demanding for more inclusion.

I could manage just fine with the Male/Female options, did this mean others could? Apparently not because it wasn’t tolerable enough and it bothered them so they asked constantly for Blizzard to change this.

Finally Blizzard does something with it and they’re all happy. But then I come in with a thread like this and then those same exact people come into here and tell me “Oh my gawwwd, you make your character and never see it again, gawwwd, why you makin’ such a big deal out of iiiit?”

So why couldn’t they say this to themselves when it was Male/Female?

Why can’t you say this now? I really dont get what your complaint actually is.

@Decration-moon-guard

That’s precisely what I said, this is ridiculous because someone is always going to be upset about something. You watch, everyone just changes their mind like the weather.

…You. You are the one upset atm.

@Raiimir-stormrage

Obviously it is important enough that Blizzard decided to change it, so it can be important to some people who disagree with the change.

The people disagreeing with the change are typically not arguing honestly. Or deliberately using misinformation to argue.

@Decration-moon-guard

What is it the LGBTQ+ community complains about a lot again with society? Labels was it? Can’t these ‘labels’ bother me?

So you are being bothered by a label you dont see outside of character creation?

You do realize you keep your pronouns rights?

@Decration-moon-guard

No, they want more.

Who does?

@Decration-moon-guard

You don’t need to tell me to stop doing something I wasn’t doing. I was spotlighting the hypocritical nature of it, not victimizing myself.

Yes. You are being hypocritical here.

@Decration-moon-guard

You’re the one with enough to press the caps key.

You created a whole thread.

[Estalayia-borean-tundra]

@Thallia-sentinels

I don’t see any pandering

I do, but that’s OK. I just find it ironic if the point of “going away” from “male” and “female” body types hilarious because the “male” and “female” body types are still locked into those pronoun usages. I just don’t understand the body type change especially for Wrath Classic where Dracthyr will not exist LOL

[Magmort-bloodhoof (Magmort)]

If we modeled our WoW characters after ourselves, all my characters would be dwarves

[Battlemaster-stormrage]

I will not be happy until i can use male exclusive haircuts like foxtail on my female characters

What’s the point of labelling body types when they don’t even share haircuts. Why is a haircut restricted to buff gym body

[Rita-velen]

Aww you must be cute. Mine would be a void elf I think.

[Thallia-sentinels (Thallia)]

@Estalayia-borean-tundra

I just find it ironic if the point of “going away” from “male” and “female” body types

That wasn’t the point. Its just coding. It’s why the pronouns didn’t change.

People need to move on with their lives from this non-issue.

[Magmort-bloodhoof (Magmort)]

Cute in a stumpy way

[Raiimir-stormrage]

@Rikira-caelestrasz

But most adult/teen focused games are gonna have mature themes which includes politics.

What are the political themes Vampire Survivors ?

@Akston-area-52

The people disagreeing with the change are typically not arguing honestly.

The people agreeing with the change are typically not arguing honestly.

What a non-argument.

[Decration-moon-guard]

Look there’s no need for you to bring your personal story here, nothing is aimed at you and none of this was to downplay your personal feelings.

@Rikira-caelestrasz

@Decration-moon-guard

Labels was it?

No it wasn’t

I’m just going to pretend you didn’t say that because it’s ridiculous. Unless you’re talking about the LGBTQ+ Lounge specifically on the forums, I’ve still seen them talk with discontent towards labels too. Society, games or otherwise.

@Rikira-caelestrasz

@Decration-moon-guard

Can’t these ‘labels’ bother me?

They shouldn’t as they’re being applied to an ingame character not to you

But nobody who was bothered by being referred to with the gender pronouns in-game or gender labels would agree with you when they were the ones being bothered by it.

In another time/realm/universe maybe you’re the one saying “Can’t these [gender]‘labels’ bother me?” and I’m the one replying with “They shouldn’t as they’re being applied to an ingame character not to you”.

[Rita-velen]

This %!! It’s silly that one body type gets access to cooler hairstyles, they should change it. Last time I checked, all body types have heads!

[Estalayia-borean-tundra]

@Thallia-sentinels

That wasn’t the point.

I was under the impression that it was. So, what is the point of having “Body Type 1” and “Body Type 2”, then? If NOT to deter away from associating them with “male” and “female”?

@Thallia-sentinels

People need to move on with their lives from this non-issue

Then move on LOL

You think I have an “issue” with it. I don’t. I find the reasoning hilarious, when the tooltips don’t support the message.

[Decration-moon-guard]

I agree with this.

[Fuzzbutt-zuljin]

Give us bearded ladies.

I can grow a beard as a lady and approve of bearded ladies if someone wants to play one.

Bearded lady dwarves especially.

[Decration-moon-guard]

@Fuzzbutt-zuljin

Give us bearded ladies.

I still agree with this.

[Rita-velen]

Also more gnome mohawks please!! For all body types! That would be so cute!

[Fuzzbutt-zuljin]

Oh my goodness I would so make a gnome warrior lady with a mohawk with engineering goggles on.

Be like a Mad Max gnome. Look super awesome!

[Thallia-sentinels (Thallia)]

@Estalayia-borean-tundra

I was under the impression that it was. So, what is the point of having “Body Type 1” and “Body Type 2”, then? If NOT to deter away from associating them with “male” and “female”?

I’m not going to repeat what I’ve already said and was quoted.

@Estalayia-borean-tundra

Then move on LOL

I’m not the one with a problem.

@Estalayia-borean-tundra

You think I have an “issue” with it.

No, I never said you. I specifically said “people” to keep you out of it.