Not a blind post.
Normal people don’t write freaking essays over the label of a pair of buttons that are seen once per character.
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Did it occur to you, you spent more time creating this post than you do on the character creation screen?
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What does that even mean? I created the thread, as the owner of such a thread why would it make no sense that I would then therefore be the most active on it? and not be the most active replier, as the owner of the thread to those that are posting on it?
I mean you’re literally focusing on the owner of the thread, one individual replying to multiple other people’s posts that add to, let me do the math for you: 342 posts. I would think your implication that I’m ‘freaking out’ about it would make sense if I had even half the quantity of this total but I don’t.
I don’t see there being a single thing odd about that. I mean what, are you trying to point this out to say that I care about the topic? Of course I freaking care about it! That’s why I made the thread, so why would it be unusual that I have the most posts on it? Apparently you can’t put two and two together.
Point me to where it was Chronormu that said it. I mean have you even read the very sources you’re referring to? Did you even read my own post clearly?
You’ve seen it here folks. Biology doesn’t exist in the WoW lore because Blizzard never mentioned it.
You know what else we haven’t seen in WoW lore? The gender of a visage form mattering in Dragon society. The story wasn’t about gender at all but clearly nobody gets this and yet everyone is on the trans boat because it was mentioned once in the entire story by one of the characters in the form of a “by the way” question at the last second and suddenly everyone claims that it was the entire focus of the story. Get real, it wasn’t.
Literally their sexual dimorphism for them is their own name. In case you haven’t noticed, Chronormu still goes by the male indicator and literally refers to himself with this name in-game saying very specifically that the name Chromie is just familiar to him.
This is literally the intricacy of Dragon culture, their name, the only “sexual dimorphism” Dragons really have and Chromie sarcastically jokes about this to the player in Heroes of Storm indicating clearly he is fully aware that it is a male name and that Chronormu obviously uses this because he still identifies as male.
I mean the voiceline literally says it’s not a male name when it couldn’t be anything but as the intricacy of Dragon culture.
This is why it was spoken sarcasticly and has been referred to as one of his “gag quotes”.
For a magical Dragon that could change his biological gender to the one everyone claims he identifies as in a heart beat and is capable of shapeshifting into literally anything at any given second, yes.
Because everyone claims he’s transgender and that a magical avatar as easily changeable as clothing equates to a full gender transition which I find absolutely insulting to the hardships of actual trans people who go through this hardship and all the obstacles that follow trying to get there.
Oh and here’s the big kicker. Turns out it was the writers that said it, not even to indicate that Chronormu strictly identifies as it, but just as an objective indication for clarification so that readers can follow along with the Visage Day story.
Assuming you’re referring to that damn twitter post by Steve Danuser that followed this after literally stating to read the entire story rather just exerpts to prevent this very confusion. Hence why he clarifies the before and after of it starting in the story so people can follow along.
“Before the ceremony he is referred to as he/him, after it’s she/her.” Doesn’t sound at all like “Chronormu identifies as she/her now” nor does it sound like he’s saying “Before the ceremony he identifies as male, after the ceremony Chronormu identifies as female.” Sounds like it was just objectively stated for clarity to confused readers.
So where did Chronormu say he would be explicitly bothered by being referred to with male pronouns? As far as I’m aware, he didn’t even tell anyone to start doing it in the story as I’m currently reading again and referencing it now in another tab, the other dragons just started using female pronouns because of the visage.
I write so much because I hit every point and leave nothing to vague assumption which apparently is not seen as a given responsibility to someone trying to get their reasonings across.
Instead it’s just seen like: “Oh MY God yOU carE TOO mUcH yOu’RE OBSessiNg ovEr tHis. Stop explaining every reason why even though when you don’t I keep drilling you to give all the justifications and reasonings for why you do a certain thing or feel a certain way but then when you give them I don’t read because it’s TL’DR. Gaaawd.”
People realize and see nothing with such things unless you show every part of it.
Why do people dismiss people who are bothered by this change? Honestly, it’s about fear of snowball. We remove gender labels now, what do we remove next? My fear is a world we’re headed has no sense of gender identity at all. It starts small, but if nobody says anything it only can get worse. Some of us want to be clearly defined as male or female. Not A & B, 1 & 2, or any other non-specific label.
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Slippery slope fallacy, you’re making a mountain out of a molehill.
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I don’t get why Blizzard didn’t just add third or more options instead of taking away what was fine.
You and others saying one liners give nothing to the discussion, you have no reason to be here and can leave.
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Yeah, objects!
No. But your term “normal people” is pretty offensive. I also suffer with OCD and I can’t deal with change. 2022 has been hard enough on me with all the “woke” happening, I don’t want my game to be changed and go all woke too. I like the simple life. The way things are. All this change needs to stop or at least be optional.
ALSO: bet you wouldn’t say that comment to those who wanted this change to begin with. Aren’t they making a mountain of a molehill forcing this change to begin with? Naw people like you make 1 sided comments.
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Preferably optional because then everyone can be happy.
And if anyone complained about Body 1 and Body 2 needing to be removed even though we still had the Male and Female options, this would be an entirely different thread and I would be fully against them since Male and Female is still there as an option.
But this isn’t about something being added that people are asking to be removed, but instead something Blizzard took away from a perfectly happy crowd. And what baffles me is that people are saying it’s only for Dracthyr. It’s not. The videos explicitly show it’s the change for Humans and every other race with gender.
We can always just follow splatoon’s method of not having a label. Said game is making millions in sales and I dont see this whole body issue being a big controvery with said method.
The issue is it’s taking the place of genders, therefore making it an issue of gender. How about this, players just don’t refer to anyone as male and female since functionally in the game Blizzard is slowly removing all of that and it is just offensive to refer to any indicative terminology.
So I guess it’s just going to be entirely absent in the lore and we all just say “So what body type are you?” and “Oh, they’re body type 2”. Which is CRINGE. I mean does that make you feel like a person with feelings or some blobby shape? How do people not see this as a snowballing problem?
Because it’s not.
What body type is my toon? Female. I don’t need a label on a button to explicitly tell me that.
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And you can stop trying to tell people to leave this thread just because you dislike what they say or think, it’s a public forum.
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The reply to this topic only requires one line.
We can be here because it’s a public forum.
Suggesting we leave is another way of admitting you can’t refute our one line reply.
There ya go, three lines, doesn’t that give my response more value?
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So is Blizzard. Seems fair to me.
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Nothing is preventing you from calling it whatever you want “male and female” in your head. It is just a label, it effects nothing past the creation page. No one sees your body type on a name plate
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People should be concerned also, those images for “body type” look like robots. Basically they are turning everyone into genderless robots.
That’s what I don’t get. It’s literally just a label on a button. It changes nothing. It might help some transgender players, but otherwise for the rest of us, it changes nothing.
Which is why I don’t get the outcry.
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There’s that “dismissal” again. So it might help transgender people, but removing gender from others who are bothered to NOT have gender labels is dismissed. If something can “help” others, it can “hurt” others. You can’t claim you help a group of people, then dismiss other group of people who feel differently. I’m a female, a woman etc it bothers me to be a genderless robot which the new image looks like.
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