Calling it Body 1 & Body 2 feels objectifying

Because it’s just an icon.

It doesn’t change or define my identity, or my characters identity. I’m androgynous, and my elf is still pretty androgynous regardless of if the icon says boy or a body type 1

complaining about these non-issues just hurts the lgbtq+ community

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I’ve been hearing about this around the forum, what is that even about?

They replaced/modified a number of in-game paintings of women in revealing clothing, some of which got replaced with a painting of a fruit bowl.

It’s another of the recent changes cause of their controversy that people got upset over even though it wasn’t really worth getting upset about.

I am, however, 100% in favour of memeing on it cause it’s funny.

Oh it must be nice to be naturally predisposed to view things this way. Let me just change my brain chemistry so I can do that.

Yes well, let me shock you with this riveting revelation. I am not androgynous. I conform to being a male in identity despite being intersex. Shockingly, Body 1 or Body 2 taking the place of where I and others initially indicate gender in association to their character, doesn’t make me feel very good.

I feel objectified. But yes, by all means, shrug this factor of how another feels off your shoulder and just say “Deal with it” like you have been and continue to call me a “Troll”. Blizzard should have just added, not taken away.

I’m done here for now.

You know they’re describing your world of warcraft character…right? Not you, the person? Like your character can be a giant cow or a tusked troll - these dont represent you…

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Between this topic and the Chromie trans topic, you have shown a pattern of being rude to the lgbtq+ community. People call you a troll because what you post is inflammatory.

And I have for the record told you to please stop using the wrong pronouns multiple times, even giving you reasons because it’s disrespectful and trans people shouldn’t have to deal with that kind of abuse.

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To who? The DRAGON?!

Who on Earth am I abusing and what are you talking about?

Also I remember that you put me on ignore, you are deliberately coming to find me now to start things. I have respectfully left you alone despite seeing you thereafter many times with things I didn’t agree with and wanted to comment on.

So why are you here now doing the opposite?

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To trans people, and to people who pronouns matter to. If you can’t even respect fictional characters pronouns how you gonna respect there pronouns

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Aren’t our characters that are being labelled with body 1 and body 2 also fictional characters though?

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:joy: He’s playing himself now

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i wish i didnt open this

just the same trolls telling op how theyre supposed to feel

but those same trolls get mad if roles are reversed

hypocricy galore

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That still makes no sense I’m giving reference to a Dragon, not them.

This is an absolute twisted assessment to an individuals characteristics as a person. I don’t call Chronormu by male pronouns to deliberately disrespect the character. I do it because in my heart I relate to him in that all my information gathered about him for years has made me fond of him as a gender fluid/feminine male.

Is that why everyone kept making statements with words like “deliberately disrespect” and claiming I was doing this as some transphobe act and all that crap? They thought it was deliberate just to be cruel? I thought I clarified enough times why I did it, none of the responses I got ever made any sense.

What a load of god damn crap saying your character was androgynous as if there’s no indication that clearly you related to your character in gender and then you say this.

I trusted you in good faith when you said that and now I don’t.

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No…I mean… ‘you played yourself’ like you walked into your own trap kinda thing… Because you’re upset about the label on one fictional character but claim it doesn’t matter on another.

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i don’t understand this thread bro im so out of the loop from modern gamers, how can anyone possibly care about this

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This is the internet. About half of what we do is find things to get upset and self-righteous about.

So what? I now have to fit in with the big belief that Chronormu is transgender? When and where did a magical avatar done in an instant and easily changeable to virtually anything ever indicate something so hugely personal to countless people as a great and big biological transition to the gender they identify with?

In my own belief, Chromie is a female avatar that Chronormu enjoys playing and expressing himself with as feminine. It’s been this way for years on my end and nothing has changed this.

Troll :yawning_face: boring.

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And that’s fine. I really don’t understand why people get so worked up over what a company does in a video game. You still have your own fantasy.

Blizz could literally do a 180 tomorrow morning and it wouldn’t disturb my own sense of immersion and my own version of fantasy. I’d even say that’s how Blizz operated back in the past, and I was still playing just fine.

You’ll get too worked up over what authority figures do tbh. I’ve never seen a genuine corporation, and I think people act like Blizzard was some heroic corporate savior and you’ll can’t get over it.

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You don’t have to do anything.

but it seems fair that if we don’t have to care about what we call the fictional dragon because it can’t hurt her feelings, then we probably don’t need to care what we call your fictional death knight because his feelings can’t be hurt.

Isn’t consistency fun?

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Anybody else would have cried by now with how you’ve approached all my attempts to help you understand, and I’m approaching stress levels with your deflections of finding common ground. Fine then. My freedom is garbage, I can’t even enjoy something so simple for my own personal relativity as a feminine male.