And yet, the fact remains that the Forsaken are so destitute in terms of representation that they almost kind of need him to stick around. He’s alive for a reason … and he’s not with Sylvanas. So, perhaps Blizz wants to do something creative with him. He is the only named military commander the Forsaken have left anymore after all.
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yeah but horde players seem to not want anyone to “Bow down” To the alliance for feel sorry for there role in the war, and he should feel bad, the dude ran a death camp for pow’s he is right behind sylvanas in war crimes.
Its less about “Bow Down” and more about practicality. The Forsaken cannot afford to lose him right now as a character. He’s not even close to being a proper replacement to the massive void left in their character roster, but they’d be in worse shape without him. Tattersail, Faranel, and Voss are also all likely going to need to get some serious TLC and attention going forward as well.
Say what you want about the NEs current situation, but they have one of the healthiest rosters of Characters out of any PC race. The Forsaken in contrast are rendered with one of the weakest and least developed. Belmont may be unsavory, but he is one of their last named characters left. He is also the leader of the Deathstalkers. Considering the Deathgaurds don’t even have a replacement leader with Sylvanas and Nathanos both bailing on them; he’s fairly valuable.
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I dont care about how heathly the roster is for the nelves its all about the story, and unlike the rest of the horde, this dude has actual defined war crimes to him, so if they are gonna have a story where he becomes a better person, he needs to make up for his crimes.
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Maybe he shouldn’t be a better person.
Because if he was, he wouldn’t be Forsaken.
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I was fine with it back when I had believed that they were loosening restrictions, thinking maybe Undead might be able to choose Alliance.
Now, definitely not, and I’m glad this is the case.
This is both wonderful because it means the Forsaken are spared Calia and disastrous because it means the Forsaken (which is becoming a really stupid name at this point) may very well get sidelined as the ‘evil undead’ so the Alliance can get the ‘good undead’, forcing the Horde even more into villain typecast and allowing Blizzard to ignore the Horde in neutral content even when it thematically fits them.
What a mess.
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My general naive hope is that if there is any such undead split, it merely goes down the line of the one portrayed in BtS. There are those that would reclaim their identities they held in life, if given the opportunity. There are those that have largely moved on from those identities, more fully adopting their new Forsaken ones. There are many on a spectrum in the middle.
Calia is group A. Voss I guess is group B. Those in the center will have to make a choice.
Death to the living!
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BFA didn’t do Voss any favors to me. She spent most of her existence as a character utterly loathing the undead and necromancy, which is fine by itself, only to pull a 180 and suddenly she’s supposed to be a horde character now? It just seems bad, and I don’t want her as a possible leader either. It doesn’t help that I think her name’s just a Magic: The Gathering reference and it’s hard to take her seriously in the first place as a result.
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I respect your optimism. Blizzard beat mine out of me finally at the start of BfA. I have zero faith in Blizzard doing anything vaguely nuanced.
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Voss should go back to being a neutral character. The same with Rexar, Garona, Keeshan, Nat and Harrison Jones. Wow needs characters sitting on the outside of the factions uninvested in major events.
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THERE IS A GOD AND HE IS GOOD!
A small ray of light in the crap pile that was BFA.
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This is good news last thing we need is alliance leaders joining the horde.
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Did people actually expect Calia to go Horde? Never mind she has always been fairly close to the Alliance, she specifically mentioned she wanted both undead and living humans working together.
Given the innocuous manner in which the horde and alliance suddenly kissed and made up any kind of imposition is possible.
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I thought the name “death camps” was only on the PTR?
Yeah, the Forsaken just can’t win this one.
I was never sure, but I thought there was a chance. More of one when that prophecy about the “golden one taking an empty throne” came out.
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I have seen a growing idea the golden one might actually be Azshara, aka the ‘Light of Lights’ as the Highborne called her. Her last words to us in Nya’lotha are (roughly) “A throne of true power calls, and I intend to claim it”.
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Glad I’m not the only one who caught that.
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I have no idea what they are doing to the Horde and frankly have no faith in them. BfA was a disaster and Lillian Voss and Garona show how halfcocked and ad hoc they are about dealing with Horde development. I certainly don’t trust Golden’s vision to be something I am going to like at this point.
She will probably be a disaster for the Horde’s narative no matter what they do with her.
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