This is the best news I’ve heard all week. To be perfectly honest, on top of her being a TERRIBLE choice for the Forsaken lead, I wanted to keep Calia for the Alliance. I don’t hate her as a character or Lightforged Undead as a concept.
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You all made the mistake in your haste the idea that she was offered to lead she was never offered to lead the forsaken voss asked her to help those who wanted help
Lich Lord.
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I mean she can lead the Forsaken without being part of the Horde. Not unlike the way Talanji is in relation to the Horde.
So… this means that she will stay alliance… probably bring back undead nelfs and maybe an undead race to the alliance?
Good news.
I think it’d be interesting if she went to the Shadowlands and just stayed there in Orbis with an official role from the Arbiter. She can play therapist to the souls the Kyrians had to drag kicking and screaming to the Shadowlands.
It wouldn’t be the first time Blizzard did a reluctant ruler (Lor’themar) story, if they choose to make Voss the Forsaken leader.
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Just fyi, this isn’t actually a concrete answer to the question. It’s just him saying that Calia won’t simply join the Horde because of her sympathy towards the Forsaken’s condition and situation, and that the amount of Forsaken that would welcome them is not “fixed”.
In other words, there’ll need to be other circumstances besides the one that Ion gives as an example in this excerpt. But the possibility of those other circumstances has not been shot down by this quote (assuming the quote is accurate, considering it being from a Chinese interview might mean translation issues).
All in all, “This is a complicated issue.”
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Dude, literally neither has any other Horde race since vanilla. Join the club.
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Why bring up the rest of the Horde races here?
This is about Calia and the future of the Forsaken, that’s what my post is about. Not comparing the damaged identities of the various Horde races.
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That’s a pity. She could have been a positive voice in the Horde leadership
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Maybe one day, but she does not have the development to be the forsaken leader yet. Having her be their leader right off the bat of rubbing elbows with alliance leadership would be beyond insulting.
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My main Horde alt is Forsaken, and I go full in on the Forsaken fantasy while playing him. With that in mind, I’m tremendously happy about this. I’d honestly prefer Dumass over Calia as leader of the Forsaken.
But when I put my Alliance hat back on I’m scared. Because that means there’s a good chance we’ll get saddled with her ;_;
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She does not seem inherently like a bad character per say, I wouldn’t mind the horde having her, but it seems like shes being pushed much to quickly into a position of importance while it hasent been earned.
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Until it’s confirmed on live servers, I’m taking it with more salt than the Dead Sea.
I have two main issues with her.
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She isn’t Forsaken. Not from the original Third War population, or the later Cata-era batch raised by the val’kyr. She acts like it’s just Lordaeron 2.0 when it’s not. It’s an entirely different culture + mindset. She has none of the societal or individual trauma that every other Forsaken has. She wasn’t even raised into undeath by necromancy. Instead it was some weird Light thing a naaru and Anduin did. She’s like a carpetbagger in real world politics. Someone who moves to a place then immediately runs for office there, even though they know nothing about the community and have yet to even try to become part of it.
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She annoys me as a character. One Anduin is enough. I don’t need a female Lightforged undead version of him, too.
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It just means they got to invest more heavily in the one’s they have left:
- Voss: Lillian has always had a good foundation to become a great Forsaken leader. She’s just never had the development for it. She’s the living embodiment of Forsaken Free Will … which should symbolically make her a great representative of their people; but up until now her Free Will willed her away from them.
- Tattersail: She got some nice little steps in development in BfA, but she’s got a long way to go. She is however the leader of the Forsaken Naval Forces.
- Faranell: Long overdue for some serious development, he is also a leader of an important Forsaken institution in the Royal Apothecary Society.
- Belmont: Also long overdue for development, he is apparently the acting leader of the Forsaken Military; and thus important conceptually.
So, we have three structural leaders of the Forsaken left and one symbolic representative of their most cherished ideology. There has to be something worth working with in that group of four right?
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Um … including when she was bat-guano insane and giggling about how awesome the screaming sounded?
Becuase if that sounds like a good foundation to be a great forsaken leader, then … LORASH FOR FORSAKEN LEADER!
That said, we’ve still got the prophecy about the “golden one” and the vacant throne. That sounds like Calia to me.
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I dunno, that seems fine for a Forsaken leader lol! In all honesty though, the girl has mellowed quite a bit since her vengeance trip. Her handling of Stone and Zelling shows that she’s a pretty good caretaker of Forsaken … in the instances that she feels she needs to be their caretaker. The latter part being the primary issue over her occasional bouts of instability … she only takes responsibility for others if she feels she absolutely has to.
As a side note, has her brand of Purple Fire ever been properly explained? Self Immolation and Purple Flames are something wholly unique to her right?
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Belmont should die, the dude is a war criminal