There is no mention of anything like that. The only mention of titles was to give her husband one once they went public.
Yes exactly. She could’ve become Forsaken and lived Forsaken to help bind Alliance to Horde. Except… that would’ve just made her Horde. But who cares? She would’ve replaced Sylvanas and/or helped cleanse the world of her.
Then someone else could’ve been the “Calia” of the light. Or I dunno, maybe give Lilian some spotlight? She could’ve found a way to cleanse the darkness of necromantic magic to allow them to live in the light. Or literally anything.
And the whole Ally + Horde becoming pals? Maybe just write in good interactions between them? We don’t need an ally character to still be pals with the Ally to bind it all together. Our main characters can be sufficient enough with decent (Better yet, believable) writing.
So many possibilities and they shoved it all into one poorly written character. Just another prime example of how lazy they can be.
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While at first furious, Lianne could tell from Calia’s face that it was true love and aided her in keeping her relationship and pregnancy a secret after she was assured that her grandchild would be legitimate.
Lianne promised that once Arthas was properly wed and produced an heir, they would acknowledge Calia’s daughter
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The way she was raised is odd but without having access to a valkyr they couldn’t raise her into undeath. Remember that the Forsaken were mindless reanimated undead, it wasn’t until Illidan damaged the frozen throne and it lost control over pockets of the scourge that the forsaken finally broke free. Still it is odd that they decided to make it the light raised her into undeath.
The current story implication.
Is the Forsaken and Humans will unite. Through Calia and Derek, and since Derek is Jaina’s brother.
But a lot of people like Calia as much as they like Brie Larson, so I don’t see those stories going well for them, lol.
They’ve said the OG plan was for essentially a brand new character to be written presumably a Priest, to be raised into undeath by the Na’aru with Death Magic, like Calia was.
So we almost had that, until Christie figured it would make more sense to use a character that was already in the lore.
But honestly I feel like the OG plan may’ve been better given the reception of Calia at this point, lol.
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Nothing there implies she gave up her titles. They couldn’t acknowledge a grand daughter that only handful of people even know existed or was of royal blood. Again all they were doing was hiding the fact she had married and had a daughter, nothing in that text states she gave up anything related to the throne.
You are reading way too much into that my friend.
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Again, so the queen was going to work on getting legitimacy for someone that didn’t need it.
Princess Princess Calia.
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she’s not real undead, and she’s not a well written character, and she’s not even goth. its like asking why harry potter fans don’t like delorus umbridge.
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She wasn’t working on getting Calia legitimacy, it was her daughter and her husband they were discussing. Him being a commoner and a daughter the people of Lorderon never know existed. Hell Calia was still residing in the capital while her family was living in Southshore. She was caring on exactly as she had before the marriage and daughter. Not the normally actions of someone who stepped down as the princess.
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One, She’s dead, and was brought back into a form of undeath via magic. Just cause it wasn’t the kind of magic that is normally used doesn’t mean she isn’t undead.
No she’s not goth. Which doesn’t bother me. If every single person had the exact same fashion sense in the world or country things would be dull and unoriginal.
I agree she could have some better writing. But that’s on Blizz not the character.
And let’s not bring Harry Potter into this.
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Why? Why did those two need it? He married a princess and their child was from a princess.
He should have automatically been royalty and her daughter a princess.
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She is a real undead. We’ve now seen Life and Light spins on Death Magic. Kinda like how Dragon Magic is all X plus Arcane.
She was well written in Legion, and in Before the Storm’s novel. But ever since then they dropped the ball on how her character itself was written and portrayed in my opinion at least.
Like I wish the quality of work they put into the books, could find thier way into the game.
I don’t mind that she’s not goth. But in my opinion her outfit should be more like Revendreth in style. Like it could still be sleek and clean, but fit the vibe of the Forsaken race more then she currently does. Because right now she just looks like she’s still in a form of Royal Priest Gear.
I don’t think it has to do with her fashion aesthetic so much as how she is as a person/character. But personally the only thing I find jarring about her aesthetic is the sheer amount of cat pictures she has.
Granted my aunt’s style doesn’t bother me, and she’s the same way just with Cows and Cow pattern, lol.
yes, but that is incredibly important, the type of magic used essentially determines what social class of undead you are. forsaken are essentially the lowest level and are only self aware by accident. keep in mind that deathknights are closer to forsaken than calia and we aren’t considered forsaken either.
calia has absolutely nothing in common with the forsaken other than having lived her human life in the same kingdom, she shares nothing else with the rest of the forsaken, she doesn’t have to learn gutterspeak or replace body parts because of rot. she wasn’t raised against her will, and she’s not cursed in the afterlife if she dies.
yes, but she has been assigned queen of the goth faction, and mostly against the will of all the players who play that faction. forsaken run on hate and malice from their situation and blizz just inserted a sunday school teacher to be their leader. its obvious the writers know nothing about the playerbase. the forsaken don’t want a happy go lucky “we can get through this” leader, they want an evil witch of a queen who wants to destroy the living.
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Calia is the queen of Lordaeron by law and tradition. It is her family’s kingdom, and she is the last extant member of that family. Every Forsaken is a dead citizen of Lordaeron, and a former subject of her father Terenas Menethil II. Sylvanas Windrunner was nothing more than an upstart foreigner in the right place at the wrong time, and an elf on top of that. She never held lawful dominion over human lands.
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that kingdom died when arthas killed his father.
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Sylvanas’s “kingdom” died when she was sentenced to do Maw dailies until the end of time
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According to in-game lore, the Kingdom Still exists, and the Undercity is still considered just a part of the Ruins of Lorderon. With a lot of the Forsaken assets carrying Lorderon symbols, espeacially by those who want to distance from Sylvanas.
Like it or not, Lorderon is who the Forsaken are/were culturally for the most part.
Calia has more in-common with every Forsaken raised POST their free will. Then Sylvanas ever did.
As even Dark Rangers are a higher class then the Forsaken. I will admit it’s a bit weird that the Forsaken leaders are mainly advanced Undead and not Forsaken class, even Nathanos got an upgrade.
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given that she was able to travel to and from the shadowlands without assistance from the ebon blade (who have a death warrant issued for her) she’s clearly not trapped and can leave anytime she wants, we all know she’s only looking for nathanos and will peace out of the maw as soon as she finds him.
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Couldn’t format the post correctly because I can’t post videos (nor quote them apparently.) Just wrote that in that movie, Scar killed Musafa so he could become King himself. Wasn’t sure how that pertains to your view on monarchies lol.
Okay…your arguments are…really shallow here. She’s still undead, no matter how much you argue that the MAGIC involved is what matters, she’s undead. She is not alive. She is not a Death Knight, She’s not a Dark Fallen. She’s undead. And we’ve already covered in questlines that she is struggling to fit in with the rest of the Forsaken. But that she is doing it because she wants to HELP her people.
Second, I really doubt she’s been ‘assigned Queen’. As I said earlier in this thread, this reads more like a mistake that didn’t get spotted internally.
And lastly, the forsaken are PEOPLE just cause a section of the Players want ‘Evil’ Does not mean everyone does. Stop trying to speak for everyone. Stop pretending that just cause you want to be edgy all the time other Forsaken players do.
And finally, just cause someone is in a position of Leadership Does not mean they are REQUIRED to dress a certain way.
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