Calia is Queen now apparently

They literally emphasize that she is still the Royal Heir in Legion and BfA. She only dies because Sylvanas also sees her as the Royal Heir.

What’s shocking about thinking someone who is pro murder of the incent like you are, should touch grass?

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Menethil bloodline killed millions of innocents but that’s A-OK for you. Sounds like you should be touching grass.

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A Bloodline is not a person.

You don’t just get to wipe people out because their bloodline killed people.

In your opinion all of Japan should be wiped off the face of the Earth, along with Ukraine, Palastine, Russia, and Germany

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incorrect, Arthas killed millions of people

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Which makes no sense and that goes back to what I said earlier that Blizzard is screwing up their own story.

Calia was the legit heir to the throne, IIRC, for a whole five years until Arthas was born. Once she became a teenager, her father arranged a marriage to a noble, which would have sent her packing.

Then she married a commoner and had a child with him. That sealed her fate and stripped her of the princess title. Her mother was going to give it back to her once Arthas spawned some children but none of that happened. So for Blizzard to say that means they don’t even remember what they wrote years ago, which happens all the damn time.

She died because Sylvanas felt she was leading or part of a rebellion. And Sylvanas is an evil witch.

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No she died because she broke the agreement made the moment she told the Forsaken to betray the Horde and run into a city where many people will still despise them and would oppress them cause she doesn’t understand anything and is an ignorant fool she broke the deal and agreed upon peace.

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Someone should have told that to the Bolsheviks. The Tsar did far far less than Arthas ever did.

Lack of Sources to back up claims, applying RL monarchy rules, possible “Queen” typo, and/or the Mandela Effect all converging to muddy the waters.

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Based on this description alone. Calia’s position is emphasized as just being the direct heir. Not an heir. As often even in IRL times a kingdom would go to a female heir and her husband, if the King/Queen had no living Male Heirs.

Literally not the reason that was given though

That’s not what she did. Did you actually READ the book? lmao.

All she did was walk out with people and talk to them, she did NOT break any deal.

Yeah, and the family’s murder was unjust. When their ire was directly at the Tsar. His kids were innocent.

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Well that was deleted quickly :dracthyr_lulmao:

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That was because they were trying to get around the king doing something silly (like trying marry his daughter to Deathwing) once he found out she went against him and picked her own husband. It has nothing to do with the next heir because the same text makes it clear that even with her being the older sibling, Arthas was aways going to be the heir to the empire.

“Although Calia was older, Arthas, as the firstborn son, was the heir apparent to the throne.”

There is no mention of her ever being striped of her title or stepping down, as she was never going to rule anyways. The only thing they were waiting on Arthas for was to make sure the her father couldn’t object as the king because he would no longer have that power.

I listened to the Sylvanas audio book where it was brought up from Sylvanas’ pov yes Calia made the call for them to come in and it was revealed not all Forsaken got a happy, loving and accepting reunion.

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That crown is better looking then the burger king crown from shadowlands

Nobody knew he was a dragon. You’re applying 20/20 hindsight to that situation. The only thing the king and Calia knew at the time was he was a noble and the king felt he was a good match for his daughter. She didn’t want to marry him because she wasn’t in love with him. When it comes to royals, not being in love is a piss poor excuse for not getting married.

There is plenty of mention of it. Once again, if she was still heir to the throne, her husband would have been made a noble and her child would have been the heir. Granted they would have been third or fourth in line but they still would have been in line.

Since she was not in line anymore, her mother was going to have to step in.

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Genuinely re-reading Calia’s entire lore makes me sick. Please can we get some better writers. I don’t loathe her by any means as an actual binding agent between Alliance and Horde, but please, for the love of all things Warcraft retcon her with a better story post her death.

She could’ve been brilliantly written but nope. Had to cheese her into place.

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I have both books. This is false.

It was not just revealed in the Sylvanas book.

Even in Before the Storm, it talks about how not all Forsaken got warm welcomes.

The only thing Calia did, was help Anduin broker an armistice meeting with Sylvanas, to let Forsaken members meet some of their living relatives.

Not all of them got warm welcomes, but some did. Calia didn’t even WANT to be a part of the talks, because she didn’t want her presence to give them false hope of her taking the throne.

Anduin ASKS her to go with them, and she has her hood up to hide from most people.

When Sylvanas notices that SOME of the Forsaken are having a good time, and SOME are not. She blows the horn.

Calia NEVER tells the Forsaken to go to the Alliance.

BUT since a COUPLE of them do try to run with thier families, Sylvanas orders them ALL to die. Because she will not stand a SINGLE OUNCE of disobedience.

The winds of her mount as she flies over the battlefield unveil Calia’s hood, and seeing her as a threat as the heir to Lorderon, and the assumption that she was trying to turn her people against her. She kills her on the spot.

Which Spoiler alert. Before the Storm ALSO talks about the event from Sylvanas’ PoV.

Both written by the same Author. So again, your little head canon is false.

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Her being raised by the Light and “necromancy is necromancy” nonsense is just flat out disappointing.

I don’t know why they had to make her the special Light princess instead making her a zombie like everyone else.

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Sorry, it was a joke :slight_smile: I know he didn’t know and he was being controlled by magic to help Deathwing. Still this poor girl has been thru marriage hell :slight_smile:

Expect Arthas was the next heir to throne and if he children, they would be the next heirs. The only way she became heir would be if the king died, then arthas died without having any children. Oh wait, that is exactly what happened! They were only concealing the marriage and child from the king, the queen was in on the ruse, until Arthas was official named king and produced a heir of his own.

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Danuser.

It was revealed they wanted a new Lightbound Forsaken, in order to move the cosmic plot forward.

Christie Golen was tasked with writing the character, she felt it would be more impactful if it was a character that was known, and one that had relevance to the people of Lorderon, rather then some nobody that Danuser wanted.

She pitched Calia, and it went through.

But the Lightbound thing is all for the Cosmic Light v Void War and the other 4 forces plot.

So, the queen had to step in and make Calia and her child heirs and give back titles they already have? That’s what you’re going with? Calia was going to be Princess Princess Calia and the baby was going to be Princess Princess Georgette/Prince Prince George?

You do realize that’s what you’re saying? If she and her child never lost their titles, the queen was getting them extra titles.

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