You guys are picking some from column A, little from column B but when I point out that doesn’t make sense, then it’s “well this isn’t real life.”
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Sylvanas needs to come back and deal with this absolute slap to the face to forsaken players. What an insult.
She is of the bloodline of Arthas who created all of the undead. Her head should be on a pike on the Lordaeron walls.
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Oh, no worries…I get (got?) it just fine. We are, however, discussing a fictional world, the happenings in which are determined by less-than-meticulous writers.
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Even when Prince Harry was stripped down to just being a Duke, as he currently is IRL. He still retains his Royal Blood, and is referred to as Prince Harry.
Should all other Royal Family members in line for the throne fall. Then Harry would inherit the throne.
So yes, Calia is still the rightful heir, IF we go off of IRL backing.
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I’ll say the same thing to you that I said to Caelin: you guys are cherry picking how a monarchy rules IRL but when I point out other IRL points, then it’s not real life.
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There is no heir to Lordaeron. The Menethils have no claim anymore to anything. Their bloodline needs to be purged root and stem.
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But Harry is still an heir (for now). Calia was not, which is why her mother said they would give her child a title once Arthas had a male child.
If she was still a legit heir, her mother wouldn’t have said that.
Edit: Fun fact… Prince Andrew is still an heir too 
Idk why don’t you ask all the countries that told the British Empire to get stuffed why they don’t want their former royal line to come back?
I never said that at all please don’t put words in my mouth hon the NEW Kingdom of Lorderon belonvs to the Forsaken not the Menethils.
What are you on about like have you read anything?
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See, you’re siding with the writers on everything like they’re infallible. It doesn’t take much to step back and see the numerous issues with Calia and the Forsaken. They key being she doesn’t know a fraction of the Forsaken’s pain. Sylvanas did.
It’s just bad writing overall which is why folks are saying she’s “shoehorned.” It’s like if Baine was suddenly repurposed to become an Alliance leader without a good multi-expansion build up.
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Tovi, do you have a reference to where Terenas remove her as an heir? All I have read is that she married a solider in secret, had a child and that her mother know and helped them to hide this. With the intent that once Arthas became the king, they would reveal all of this and she and her family would come back. Sounds more like they were living in self imposed exile, they even mentioned making the father a nobleman.
Oh I love the part were for a short time she was engaged to marry a disguised Deathwing 
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She’s not royalty. She literally gave up the throne to marry a commoner. She gave up her rights to the throne.
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So if your brother or your father becomes a mass murder, then you and your kids deserve to be murdered because of it? That sounds messed up morally.
Calia had nothing to do with Arthas and the Scourge. It’s not her fault.
Are we gonna start holding EVERY Horde player accountable for Teldrassil and that genocide?
It is still THEIR land at the very least.
Her mother told she would re-instate her full title, once a guaranteed heir was cemented to Arthas. To ensure that Arthas’ line is who would keep the Throne not Calia. But to all of our knowledge, she still is in the running should all other Menethils perish.
The only exception would be an instance like Russia, where the royal line was usurped and replaced. But instead the whole nation just died.
But those countries were COLONIES of Britain, and treaties granted them their lands back. In this analogy Lorderon IS Britain. Try again.
You implied Calia no longer owns her land. So yes, you DID effectively state that all Forsaken have no property rights. Calia never signed anything over.
Read Before the Storm.
It literally states that Calia is the Heir to Lorderon. Anduin and others even ask if she’ll try to pursue the throne from Sylvanas if the meet goes well.
Sylvanas also KILLS her, because she’s afraid that Calia will take her rightful place as heir and get the Forsaken to follow her.
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Uh if they killed millions and cursed undeath on millions more, yes.
The land belongs to the Forsaken. Not the bloodline that cursed them.
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Aarrghh! If anyone can remember the name of the quest it would help put a lot of the back in forth to rest.
I remember meeting Calia on my priest back in Legion but I don’t remember if that line was part of her dialogue or in a quest.
Only by people who actually respect Monarchies still for some reason 
“Her land” yuh love to see the documents proving that
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In that same passage you’re reading on what I assume is Wowpedia. Do you not see where Queen Lianne said she would make Calia’s husband a noble and her child in line for the throne once Arthas produced an heir?
If Calia was still a legitimate heir, they wouldn’t have to do either of those things. It’s like Kate Whatsherface. She is common but once she married William she became royal.
You just proved what I was saying. The only reason they would have to reinstate her title is if they took away in the first place.
Everyone died before anything could be reinstated.
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Only until they change the laws in regards to nobility. Whereas in Japan Princess Mako like Princess Nori before her had to abdicate.
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That’s not how ownership of anything works. You don’t lose your land because your sibling was Fantasy Hitler.
You need to Touch Grass. Because you don’t get to hold innocents accountable for the actions of others. PERIOD.
I still just don’t understand why everyone is up in arms about it. She’s already said she doesn’t want to RULE the Forsaken people. But that doesn’t take away the Throne of Lorderon for her.
As others have stated, look at the Royal Family of England. At best they just get a seat to have an opinion on matters. Like Calia does on the Desolate Council.
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The laws had changed in Britain. Previously the last time someone royal married a commoner they were forced to abdicate the throne and that was 1936.
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lmao the Forsaken took the land. It’s theirs now. There is no claim for the Menethils.
And there it is. Shocker.
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