Hardly, its only done because the writers say it’s done yet they hadn’t resolved the fundamental issue at the core. That is the Horde have been bad actors in every event and there has been no restitution or indication from what remains of the Horde that they are trying to make amends for their actions.
It is a badly told story that has failed on every level to resolve the conflict outside of having Anduin decide for everyone that the horde have changed yet have done nothing to indicate anything has happen.
Even with the “council” we have seen members of its looking for alliance blood. So I expect we will see the Horde attacking the Alliance again sometime soon and then Anduin coming back to make peace again. All because blizzard lean on him like a crutch to make peace between factions.
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And what do you want that to entail? Because there’s going to be alliance players that are going to cry it’s either not enough or it’s horde favoritism regardless of what happens
I’m curious what people actually want when they say stuff like this.
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That’s not what I said.
I said that the Teldrassil Apology Campaign has run it’s course The Horde has given all it’s going to give and the Alliance isn’t going to restart the 4th War just to get an apology.
Red vs. Blue isn’t ending with Dragonflight unless the game itself is going to be s hut down.
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I pretty much disagree with every single word you said 
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More than likely Turalyon is going to do what he is best known for and decide that it’s time to make war on the Horde for a change. He may not be High or Low King, but he’s the man in charge.
More like Horde does genocide. Horde gets treated like a dog that peed on the carpet with the narrative rubbing our nose in it. The Alliance is always right, they invade and sack our cities and we let them because we feel bad.
I want the Alliance to have their Theramore moment. Blow up one of our cities (just not Silvermoon)
“Is” and “should be” are two different concepts. It really feels like you try to be contrarian about everything.
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This here is where Teldrassil is narrative poison.
Because there’s nowhere to go with it that even kinda makes sense.
And because there’s almost nothing the Alliance can do at this point that seems outlandish or a bridge too far with “start an unprovoked pre-emptive war against civilians, then murder the noncombatants” as the starting point.
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Leaving alliance lands firstly would be a good start, disarm theyre military except leaving them their champions armed and local guards. Tribute of gold or labour to restore lands they have destroyed with their invasions. Finally a sincere apology towards the races they have attempted to wipe out.
That is just random speculation and has no grounds for any basis. It would be totally out of character for him to go nuts and attack for no reason as he has no issues with any of the horde. However we do have Horde who would have issues with him aka the Mag’har, I can’t imagine they are too keen on an alliance lead by a lightforged.
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Well, for any of this to follow we’d have to allow the war ended with King Churchill and his best friend Chieftain Himmler giving the heroically KIA Overlord Goring a eulogy in Berlin… months after the entire NSDAP High Command joined forces with the Allies to oust that guy with the handlebar mustache from power. Such an AU’s politics might more closely resemble this chilly armistice than you’re comfortable with.
indeed but we have players here who try to frame the goblin ship attack or Dalaran purge like the Alliance equivalent of Teldrassil.
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Somehow I doubt that was what Afrasiabi had in mind when he said she was “behind it,” though…
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When people keep asking the exact same question about something that’s going to be two expansions in the past, it kind of brings that out. It’s way past time to move on.
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Maybe. Regardless, this is still an acceptable “compromise” with regards to how the Wrathgate played out. At best she was indirectly responsible and someone could defend her by saying she didn’t really order it, at the same time people can blame her because if the opportunity had presented itself, she would have ordered the massacred both Alliance/Horde for a shot at killing Arthas.
Honestly after the introduction of Zovaal and the mess of Shadowlands lore, the Burning of Teldrassil almost seems like a Golden Age
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It’s a damn shame about Zovaal and the mawsworn. From an aesthetic standpoint, they were cool. Loved their overall designs. They were just introduced and executed in a crap fashion.
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That seems fair. I don’t see a problem with something along those line
the Alliance will not feel like justice has been served until Sylvanas and the Horde faces the Allliance’s justice and not just Pelagos’s unbiased forgiveness. I know what you want Smallioz.
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That is not fair at all.
People clearly need to be reminded that it was not some total Alliance victory. The Alliance needed the help of the Rebel Horde to put an end to the war. Ending the war was the extent of their victory.
In Shadows Rising, and follow up Dev discussions, we learn that the borders basically go back to what they were. The Alliance can either stop fighting or keep fighting. They decide to stop. That does not mean they get to dictate terms.
As things stand, the armistice is closer to what the US and Britain agreed to after the War of 1812, than the end of WW 1 or WW 2. A cessation of hostilities, not a total victory over one side.
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The allies…put so many sanctions on Germany after WW 1 that it crippled their economy for years and than they carved the country amongst their other allies after WW 2.
If you think the horde doesn’t need to pay reperations for a war THEY STARTED and than comitted a GENOCIDE on the night elves…than no wonder this discussion never goes anywhere.
On side wants the horde to admit they did wrong and pay for it, while we got horde players who want the horde to never pay for their own actions
Lets be real here, this extreme faction pride crap helps no one and its why blizz keeps writing these terrible faction war stories
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