Lets see blizzard take action.
You might want to remove the link since naming and shaming isn’t allowed.
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I didnt name anyone, the video contains multiple player names.
Call-outs are against the rules and they don’t take reports via the forums. If you suspect someone of cheating, you right-click and report them.
Definitely remove the video.
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Nowhere in my post, video title or video description do i name the players abusing this bug.
That is entirely upto the veiwer to check for themselves if they wish to know the names of the players in question.
Nobody has been named.
Posting the video is the issue. Not whether or not you included a call out in the post. The video is the call-out.
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The video does contain the name of the individual, so yeah, you might want to remove it before a Moderator does it for you.
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This would be perfectly fine to forward to hacks@blizzard.com - but not the forums, Almeria.
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It surely would be if Blizzard actually read the emails and took action, there are players that i haverecorded botting in cataclysm that still have not received a ban to date.
Its a joke.
Botters are met with extreme penalties, Almeria. When we can prove it. I sometimes wish we still published those numbers - but we don’t. I’ll just say, they are mindboggling numbers, but you’ll never know everything that is done behind the scenes.
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Not at all, but when said player is still running around in the game today, with well over 3-4 hours of video footage submitted of the player blatantly mining using a bot (getting stuck on fire and continuing to try and mine for hours on end), it’s a bit disappointing.
He should have been perm banned on the spot.
Have you done more than just record video? Have you right-click reported them for cheating? VIdeo “proves” very little. It doesn’t contain log file information that is needed for the investigation. It doesn’t contain system information from the other player’s computer, like what programs and processes are running on that computer. A video may show what bot activity looks like, but it doesn’t actually prove that the other player is botting. It doesn’t prove that the video isn’t doctored to look like botting. It doesn’t prove it’s on Blizzard’s servers and not an illegal pirate server.
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I mean, if they just instantly ban people on the spot for mining for hours on end, they’re going to get a lot of innocent players caught in the crossfire.
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So standing in fire, continuing to attempt to mine a node for hours on end while the burn effect interrupts you every few seconds is normal player behavior?
No, its an obvious bot.
Even something that you believe is a bot, needs to be investigated. Blizz logs need to support what you saw. Otherwise, people would just go around reporting people do that they would be auto-banned on the spot.
If their log don’t support our show any wrong doing, then no action would be taken.
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Nothing in the game can stop me from just standing in fire for the heck of it. There’s nothing to stop of player to doing dumb things for the lolz of it because they know someone may be watching them and getting annoyed at it.
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That is a charming misconception.
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I really wish people would stop pulling this line of crap…
Bots use stolen credit cards and accounts, Blizzard LOSES money when these guys operate.
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Just shows you have no idea what you are talking about, you are just parroting the line of bull the anti-Blizzard people are pushing along with playing into the botter’s agenda.
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It makes perfect sense “dood”.
When a hacker steals an account and sets it to bot for mats, they use a stolen credit card to pay for the subscription. When the actual owner of the credit card sees it, they file a dispute called a “chargeback”. Blizzard refunds the money because the cardholder didn’t authorize the charge, as per US law.
This process takes man hours, as does the process of restoring a hacked account to the registered user. Blizzard doesn’t make money on accounts that are botting. Not to mention the indirect cost of people like you who get bent out of shape and not only spread rumors like this, but also may quit the game over it.
Now then…
I think the term “infested” is quite out of line. Maybe check out some of the lesser free-to-play MMO’s. Let us know how those games compare in terms of “infestation”.
That said, Blizzard spends quite a lot of time on fighting botters. It’s inherently a reactive situation. You can’t actually expect Blizzard to know what the botters are going to do before they do them, so they have to react.
Reacting by banning each botter one at a time does very little. Not only does it let the bot writers know how they were detected, but it doesn’t actually stop the program from running. Once Blizzard breaks the program from working, then they remove all the accounts that were using it.
It is not instant, it does not work on our time frame. But it works. Trust me, as someone who has been in this very forum after a ban wave, I see that it works.
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