I paladin tank it with a warrior, we don’t taunt off for stomp. Just use CDs and inform the healers of their impending nature. Also make sure tanks are giving forewarning to taunting, at least a few seconds. Any additional dbuffs really helps to avoid the rng one shots and bag of marbles on stomps if ally.
21k is more then we healed on either tank last night for our kill. with 6 healers ( our 7th was in t1 gear )
170g on consumes a night? Maybe if you one shot everything. Im probably closer to 500ish as a priest. On a bad night, maybe 250 on a good one.
Yea the biggest killers on our runs are when tanks call out AS they taunt or call out a countdown and then for whatever reason wait. we are timing heals ON YOUR COUNTDOWN. If you say taunting in 3…2…1…and then wait an extra second and a half, we have swapped and are healing that new tank already, meanwhile the old tank is getting murdered.
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I think he was refering to getting 170g per doing the isle dailies, per day. Not what consumes costed per a night of raiding.
weapon oils is 5hours per 10g
flasks are free
regen food cost a few gold per stack
runes are free and a couple stacks of mana pots are a little priciey but last for a few weeks
from a healer pov i spend more in repairs than consooms
Flasks, for Spirit based healers, In tbc. lol. Terocone was over 200g a stack at swp release. +heal spirit food was 80g a stack 4g EACH. couple gold a stack your high. Runes are free, lol.
He only considers the costs from his own point of view.
For me to full consume for a brutalus fight it takes me (my personal choice on weapon oils) 1 rightous weapon coating from the daily, 1 mana oil coating for offhand 1 mana regen elixir, 2 demon slayer elixirs (falls off mid fight) 1 grilled mudfish, 1 kibler bites (pet food), 2 scrolls of agility (one for pet one for me) 1 scroll of strength (for pet), 2 haste potions, and 2 dark runes. Everything but the weapon coatings is lost on death (sometimes the pet lives through a wipe because i die before it does)
Now as a hunter i sometimes survive a wipe, but still…
Thats about 100g per attempt if i go full consumes. Even if i dont die on a wipe its about 50g worth of consumes just from haste potions and dark runes. This isnt even adding in arrow costs. And between bloodlust, rapid fire (2) beserking (2) haste potions (2) dst procs, improved aspect of the hawk procs, 2 haste drums, and im sure im forgetting at least 1 other haste effect… i go through multiple stacks of arrows per fight. I can go through 1-2k gold worth of consumes in a raid night if I go full tryhard due to progression causing us to not walk in and 1 shot every boss. Which is why i dont start going all out until the raid has the basics of the mechanics down. Between helping others have consunes and my own, i cant afford it.
i think i spent like 70ish gold on today’s swp clear repairs included so idk, granted i dont use spirit.
ofc progression itself is expensive, just need people to understand how stuff works and poof, cheap clears
Yep, which is why i dont go full consumes until my guild is getting mechanics correct to a reliable degree.
You flask on prog.
Haste pot still on prog.
Don’t scroll on prog, the 20 agi isn’t worth it.
Still use the new weapon oil, you should be using a weight stone not a mana Regen oil.
Kiblers bits.
Dark runes.
Odds are if it’s a wipe you won’t rune anyway unless you wipe at the end of a fight.
I just bought consumes for 2-3 weeks and it was 600g but I already mass produced haste pots since I have a potion master.
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Cant put weight stone on non blunt weapons.
I do have a first weapon for when we dont have our 3% hit from boomkin, but its not worth the tradeoff when i dont need the hit.
As for haste potionsz they aervage about 9-10g per when i look at them and the mats and having a potion master make them are not mich better in price, usually aroung 8-9g per.
And im not saying i wont use full consumes. But i will hold off on using them if we are wiping from basic mechanics like burns being spread and such. My guild was actually living to the point of the enrage so i will be using haste pots and everything when we go in there tomorrow. But until basic mechanics are being done properly, not really much reason to go full tryhard.
You CAN put weight stones on non blunt weapons.
The only benefit fists have is the stones for those give you the 14 crit rating where as sharp stones don’t, both stones still give you +12 ranged damage.
However if dual wielding you use the new righteous weapon coating and 1 stone of whatever your other weapon is, if you wear a 2h you only use the new righteous weapon coating.
I’m actually shocked you don’t know that.
For any holy paladins, flash of light is a filler spell in Sunwell during bosses. 60%+ of your casts should be higher rank (if not max rank) holy light. Tank dmg is way to high and spikey, you will fall behind if you’re just trying to spam flash of light.
Didnt know weight stones worked on sharp weapons, but at that point i would just be using sharpening stones (typically cost less)
As for why i use the mana oil, it is because my guilds dps isnt high enough to kill the boss before i go oom with just dark runes and mp5 elixir. The oil tips the scale to the point i can stay in hawk for the 15% haste proc for much more of the fight. I might switch over once we get a dps warrior geared enough to bring to sunwell due to the fact that will likely put our dps at a point i wont need that last bit of mana regen to not oom or have to change out of hawk before the fight is over. And that 4% increase to physical damage turns that 12 weapon damage from the sharpening stone into 13, which tips the scale for which is better enough that even if i have to go into viper its better.
Not having a warrior for that debuff hurts a lot, lol.
LOL oh they got double lust all right. How was he supposed to know it doesn’t stack?!
You can use 3 even haha
I go through an absurd number of haste pots sometimes.
Judgement of wisdom should be on the bosses with a really high uptime.
Do you guys not run a ret?
Yes you would use Fel Sharp stones.
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We do run a ret, but i typically run oom even with it after enough time.
Im also usually the hunter doing scorpid sting, trying to get our SV hunter to use it more though so i can do more damage.
That and i have the bad habbit of doing the mana hungry rotation of using multi shot and arcane shot in between steady and auto shots when i am not going to clip an auto shot when doing so. Trying to get out of that habbit because the fights are now long enough that its not viable if using haste pots instead of mana pots due to the increased mana consumption.
Do you not run a boomkin?
Have them insect swarm, it doesn’t stack with scorpid it is a bit worse but scorpid kind of a waste.
You also only use arcane shot when you have no haste effects and are in a 5:5:1:1 rotation which shouldn’t be much.
For instance my 99 parse on Brut I used 16 arcanes.
On your kill you used 3.
Not gonna go into it ATM as I’m going to work but you aren’t doing the rotation right it looks like