Bring Twink Queues Back

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

So… you are calling players who don’t like twinks bad, then?
Just so we’re clear.

Also teamplay or lack thereof is another topic entirely. Let’s not derail.

[anon50458587]

Please quote me.

[Kangmurloc-dark-iron]

Also, before anyone mentions gear, it literally has nothing to do with gear.

All gear stats are baselined now,

it’s not a problem of gear.

We can look this comment and take notice.

[Lohtaan-wyrmrest-accord]

Oh I am very much aware, some of us have never left Classic.

Then why even bring it up? So you can mock people for what they might do in the future?

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

The worst first, when it comes to BGs, is players missing gear and ignoring objectives.

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

That’s a nice way to weasel around saying lack of skill.

You did say this though.

Before you scream about twinks, scream about not playing your class correctly.

Unless you think saying someone can’t play their class correctly isn’t calling them bad… somehow.

Are we just going to go around in circles now or what?

[anon50458587]

You’re quoting yourself, quote me saying that. If you can’t quite me clearly saying that then you’re trolling. I think I’m being crystal clear here. Quote me or stop twisting my words.

[Kangmurloc-dark-iron]

the future

This is where I am from.
My predictions have been uncanny on these forums.
Accurate, as documented.

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

Missing gear would be an easy fix, but how would you fix people not playing the BG right? I can’t think of anything that can be done to stop people from ignoring objectives.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

And that is worse than twinks imo.

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

The bolded text were your own words, do you have some kind of memory issue?

Here. I’ll directly quote you again.

Before you scream about twinks, scream about not playing your class correctly.

Now, do you legitimately think when you say someone can’t play their class, you aren’t calling them bad?

And that is worse than twinks imo.

Agreed, but twinks can be fixed. Road warriors can’t. (At least, I can’t think of a single thing that would fix it.)

[Myninja-llane (Myninja)]

What I gather from this is that the OP ultimately has an issue with gems and enchants. Gems really only affect a handful of brackets, and some enchants are seeing a change in the next patch. I’m not sure how this relates to the xp on/off switch.

To the OP: How would separating xp on and xp off solve your issue with gems and enchants?

Also, just so we’re all aware, no one is adding anything of value to the conversation
https://imgur.com/a/NFwveit

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Agreed, but twinks can be fixed. Road warriors can’t.

So put twinks in their own queue, where they won’t see a game, because some people are terrible at BGs and leads to a GY camp?

[Kangmurloc-dark-iron]

From a 100+ or so screenshots we have come to a common agreement that “Twinks” are in the “Green”. √
“Actively Geared Levelers” (BOA, Dungeon, Quests, PVP, Vendor, Crafted) "Green"√

The major issue has been made clear.
Outside of actual player contribution (which we cannot adjust) it is the completely under geared and unkempt players that are in the “Red”.

Fix the “Red”.

[Lohtaan-wyrmrest-accord]

Who is honestly missing gear after level 30? I’d say very, very few. People missing a slot or two has nowhere near the impact of a twinked toon.

Who ignores objectives? Just because you twink does not mean you play objectives, it just means you have a huge advantage when you do.

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

You’re being dishonest again, Juga.

I have never said, at least as far I as I can remember, that separation is the only possible fix. It’s the fix I would personally prefer, but there are others that would be effective as well.

(If I have said separation is the only possible fix, feel free to quote me. I don’t believe I have, but it’s possible I butchered my thoughts and made it come across that way.)

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Who is honestly missing gear after level 30? I’d say very, very few. People missing a slot or two has nowhere near the impact of a twinked toon.

Do you not inspect your own teammates? I see people almost every BG.

Who ignores objectives? Just because you twink does not mean you play objectives, it just means you have a huge advantage when you do.

Plenty of players do, which leads to their team getting annihilated.

[Kangmurloc-dark-iron]

Who is honestly missing gear after level 30? I’d say very, very few.

After scouring 100+ screenshots there has been a pattern with the lowest players on the charts.
Interestingly enough, these unkempt players were attached to (95%?) to existing BFA end game accounts.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

I have never said, at least as far I as I can remember, that separation is the only possible fix. It’s the fix I would personally prefer, but there are others that would be effective as well.

Not lately, no you haven’t. So what are your ideas?

[anon50458587]

So let me throw a hypothetical situation at you. Let’s say you have a mage and a rogue in your group. You have bad pulls coming ahead and the rogue moved in to sap. He saps, moves away, tank pulls and mage immediately AoEs breaking the sap. This continues through the remainder of the rights and even causes you to wipe a few times. You explain to him how this is not helping and he refuses to listen every single time resulting in a bad experience for everyone. You eventually replace him with another mage who does what you ask and you finish the dungeon with no further incident.

The mage obviously wasn’t playing his class correctly. So you’re saying he’s good, right? That’s what I’m trying to get at, because you can replace dungeon with battleground and the same scenario plays out time and time again.