Bring Twink Queues Back

[One-shadow-council]

Well I mean your entire argument was ignorant, pointless, without direction and without any proof whatsoever. You’re throwing out incorrect arguments, failing to understand the common concepts of this game and i’m not even sure if we’re discussing the same game, actually. You don’t understand how gear progression works, and yet your arguments are a “I’m right, you’re wrong. We’re done.” mentality.

You’re a level 120 end game raider in a thread about battlegrounds. You don’t have a single arena game played and just learned how to use the /hug emote against dead enemy players yesterday. You have very little experience in PvP at all, have 10k honorable kills PERIOD across your entire account and have not done anything rated, ever, anywhere. So tell me again how your opinion matters at all in anything regarding battlegrounds? I’ll wait.

Hes actually just trolling. Its some one with little to no experience complaining about twinks in pvp. Which he doesn’t even have to deal with. Idk why it took me so long to realize.

[Kangmurloc-dark-iron]

Same person different accounts, arguing to increase thread activity.

[Muram-bronzebeard]

“I’m right, you’re wrong. We’re done.” mentality.

That is how most twinks in the BG’s think. You got that right. Either be me or quit “Get Gud!” “L2P.”

You have very little experience in PvP at all, have 10k honorable kills PERIOD across your entire account

Coming from the person with 2.8k HK’s… got it glad your stalking me. I can do the same.

[Greyhide-khadgar (Greyhide)]

That is how most twinks in the BG’s think.

To be fair, it’s how most that post here think, not the ones in BGs.

Coming from the person with 2.8k HK’s… got it glad your stalking me. I can do the same.

I don’t understand why people have to resort to stalking when they can’t debate. What has our world devolved into?

[Floyln-tichondrius (Floyln)]

Don’t hold your breath on any proof.

[Voroneg-amanthul (Voroneg)]

@Muram-bronzebeard

So are you suggesting we put an ilvl cap on BG’s? “your to high and can’t que til you level.”

The other way around actually

@Welfarê-silvermoon

How about we set a minimum ilevel that must be met in order for you to participate within instanced PvP?

@Muram-bronzebeard

I am sure you will throw some cruddy excuse at this but the answer is simple you either don’t have the skill to play someone on equal footing or you enjoy 1-2 shotting people knowing that you are making some person you don’t know mad.

Is this a cruddy excuse?

@Tarjana-amanthul

insanely long queue times and seeing same curmudgeons in the Instanced PvP everyday which is boring to tears

Please lurk other threads, they may already have the answers

[anon50458587]

Coming from the person with 2.8k HK’s… got it glad your stalking me.

Stalking? Well, OK, I clicked your profile and checked achievements. Boom, stalking. Also, I looked at your account achievements, good thing you looked at mine instead of just… character achievements…

[anon50458587]

That is how most twinks in the BG’s think.

Are you reading these or randomly hitting quote and replying to a completely different line of conversation? I mean, i’m serious. You quite literally took my words, didn’t reply to them how it was meant, and just went off on a tangent.

I mean I can do that if you’d like, here goes.

You

Gud!

I

quit “Get Gud!” “L2P.”

Thanks, I accept that fact you finally understand how awful your argument was. Maybe in the future you could refrain from trying to bail water out of the ocean.

[Zycci-whisperwind]

People who are leveling via BGs want to be able to do that without any additional investment, outside of queue’ing up while leveling.

They don’t want to have to get gear.

They don’t want to have to get gems.

They don’t want to have to get anything.

There is no group content in this game that doesn’t require at least some attention to your toon. If you entered or dungeon with the level of care that many random bg players give their toons, you’d get booted.

Maybe we need a vote to kick in bgs? I mean, just today several entered with half their slots empty and the ones that were filled had white starting zone gear. There’s no excuse for that, and you certainly can’t expect to show up wearing a guild tabard and a fishing pole and perform well (or even live).

Maybe Blizz just needs to make a minimum requirement before allowing people to enter bgs. I mean, it’s not like you have to be BiS to play, but requiring at least some gear makes way more sense than trying to penalize people who actually take pride in their toons and put in the time, effort, energy, gold.

And, no, one twink can’t win the game. The team has to actually try. Sitting around crying to “let them win” isn’t how you meet objectives. Learn the maps, get a little gear, and then you will really have fun.

[Eilane-kilrogg]

This guy knows what’s going on, the rest of us need to l2p and stop crutchin’ on gear.

https://i.imgur.com/mFR7kgf.jpg

[Muram-bronzebeard]

Are you reading these or randomly hitting quote and replying to a completely different line of conversation?

I learned from you. Completely ignoring any questions I posed segmenting my quotes to claim I said something I didn’t because you don’t want to hear anything that objects to what you have to say.

Thanks, I accept that fact you finally understand how awful your argument was.

Except it wasn’t, you just refuse to listen to anything that doesn’t follow your line of thinking. Would hate to force you to play with other twinks and not be able to “LOLSTOMP” randoms…

[Peytonlee-emerald-dream]

Yeah thats the only down side, but I had fun when games actually popped and it was more fun than stat template

[Peytonlee-emerald-dream]

… why would i have issues using it? It’s great for killing twink healers. You and I both know lvlers have 0 chance vs us as fury warriors and that can get boring. If you don’t mind me asking are you afraid to fight other twinks?

[Eilane-kilrogg]

You can always avoid cheese my dude, you don’t have to conform.

[Kangmurloc-dark-iron]

I have been killing Twinks on this very character for a decade? , no plans to stop.

As for Ramstein’s
Even with my fat grandfathered version, there was never a need to use it.

[Tarjana-amanthul]

@Muram-bronzebeard

You do realize if your exp isnt turned off even if all you do is Bg’s you will level up faster then you can gear up and be at the top right? If you cant turn off exp in BG’s the twink problem would be solved. If they split the ques then people that want to level or want to pvp would actually get enjoyment out of BG’s. The only people that don’t want the ques split are people that find it fun to turn off exp max gear and then 1-2 shot people because it’s fun to roflstomp some random, because they lack the ability to compete because they have no skill.

That’s exactly why

@Tarjana-amanthul

Set an item level cap in the Instanced PvP on each item piece for those characters who have xp set to off.

twinks want to stay in a certain PvP level indefinitely? No problem. Get your gear squished to a baseline like majority has and go ahead. Win by skill.

[Eilane-kilrogg]

While this has been fun, the Navy drags me away once more. I’ll be back in a week’ish, stay classy friends!

[Kangmurloc-dark-iron]

Peace, be sure to check in with us.

[Floyln-tichondrius (Floyln)]

Want to PvP and not be a free kill?

Stop wearing outdated gear and fill in those missing slots.

Gear matters. Templates didn’t stop classes from being OP. ilvl scaling didn’t stop FOTM classes from owning BG’s in WoD.

All these suggestions won’t make lazy players unlazy. They’ll still wear outdated gear. They’ll still be missing gear.

Also the fact your suggestion would apply only to xp off players, it’ll never be considered.

[Voroneg-amanthul (Voroneg)]

@Floyln-tichondrius

Want to PvP and not be a free kill?

Stop wearing outdated gear and fill in those missing slots.

this suggestion would take care of it:

@Welfarê-silvermoon

How about we set a minimum ilevel that must be met in order for you to participate within instanced PvP?

@Floyln-tichondrius

Gear matters. Templates didn’t stop classes from being OP. ilvl scaling didn’t stop FOTM classes from owning BG’s in WoD.

But noone is suggesting FOTM-only PvP queues! Most complaints on the forums are about gear, and rightfully so. I absolutely agree with the fact that gear matters and I would love to see a gear getting baselined inside PvP Instances especially for someone with the highest abuse potential, like xp-off players.

@Floyln-tichondrius

All these suggestions won’t make lazy players unlazy. They’ll still wear outdated gear. They’ll still be missing gear.
Also the fact your suggestion would apply only to xp off players, it’ll never be considered.

But that’s exactly why it should be considered! It will only affect those who made a conscious decision to turn their xp off and abuse the gear advantage indefinitely inside PvP Instances!
It will not affect normal players, who will not have the gear above the heirloom baseline in any PvP bracket below max level one. Ain’t nobody got time for that!
It will not affect twinks that deck out in top gear but keep their xp on. They can continue enjoy stomping scrubs, but for a limited time, as they will level out.
It will not affect twinks like that want to have their xp-off and not have their gear downscaled inside PvP Instances. They can play wargames vs other twinks, where their gear will be completely unaffected. Or do WPvP. Jwlx, you belong here!
The only ones who will be affected are maniac psychopaths who live to stomp the living life out of undergeared scrubs infinitely, compromising the twink community in the process, by causing massive qq from scrubs and providing a basis for idiotic suggestions like dividing the brackets again that scarily enough doesn’t sound so idiotic because the minimum and maximum gear disparity in most brackets inside PvP Instances is still a cruel joke, albeit not as bad as 80-84 during MoP, but its still bad.