Bring back PvP servers. Put the war back in warcraft

Nah. PvP in WoW failed because they kept trying to make open world PvP and Epic BGs a thing.

Never worked out for them. Players obviously prefered arena and smaller Bgs.

I’m sure all 60 of you on that server will get fed up when 55 of you are the same faction.

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Maybe if PvP servers were properly labeled “servers for toxic griefers” than fewer people wouldve accidently signed up for it.

You mean ganking low level players and grieving them?
Because thats what pvp servers turned into.

Oh no, PvP happened on a PvP server

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Bad PvP happened.

Nobody wants bad PvP.

If you played on a PvP server you knew what you were in for. Shut up already you seem to have more forum post than any content done in game.

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Pvp is 2 people within the same level bracket such as a 60 and 62 duking it out a few times then going on their way. being a toxic griefer is some level 80 corpse camping a 40 and preventing them from playing at all. That is not pvp but harassment and a violation of ToS. That whole “you signed up for it” only goes so far in this instance. What I signed up for was the first instance of a 60 and a 62 duking it out then going on their way. What I didn’t sign up for was being corpse camped by some moron at max level trying to camp a low level toon to the point they can’t even play the game they paid for because said moron wants to hide behind “but muh world pvp”. Forced pvp is a cancer that needs to be eradicated from online gaming completely and I’m glad to see WoW finally had the spinal fortitude to do that.

If you want pvp, go into bgs, arenas, or sign up for war mode. Otherwise you don’t get to have a captive bunch of victims because you don’t have the fortitude to fight people your own level. If you wanted world pvp to still be a thing you should have protested when instanced pvp was announced. pvp servers are gone never to return and thank the titans for it.

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Also undo those so called PVP patches that made the tanks forced to aim lower…
Oh no tank above the defensive rockets in Wintergrasp lets patch that too!..
The level 3 tanks lets remove the rush feature too… Who the hell thought it was good to remove that?? idiots.
Oh no the lvl 1 vehicle ability to shoot over the wall the green poison was nerfed…
Original wintergrasp you could shoot the defensive cannons 360 degrees.
Some wimpy person thought it would be good idea to limit where it could shoot…
awww big cry baby patch yes lets nerf it because having fun sucks.

It’s called PvP no matter what level it was done at. If you hold these views I take it you never played on a PvP server and therefor this discussion isn’t for you. PvP servers had their own culture and mindset, one you apparently do not possess. Some of the best PvP came from taking over leveling towns and forcing massive battles, it was called Warcraft and there was plenty of war until war mode came along and finally ruined it. If you hated being on a PvP server the option for PvE was there. There was absolutely no excuse for removing PvP servers.

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Or maybe you just have a very closed mind.

I also love PvP, it’s all I do. But I won’t touch world PvP because it’s not fun. It’s all about ganking, consumable usage to get one shots, or finding a group in the group finder to easily farm kills. No thanks. I’ll stick to instanced PvP where winning actually feels rewarding and somewhat meaningful.

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Sure, but they are talking about world pvp while playing with warmode off at all times. Liking BGs and Arenas, but not open world pvp, tracks. Liking world pvp but never signing up for it is the contradiction they pointed out.

And there’s the “you were never on a pvp server” gaslight. First I was on boulderfist for the longest time and still have some toons there. I played there originally because that’s where my friends were and where several raiding guilds were. I didn’t mind actual pvp which was 2 people of similar brackets fighting and then rolling on. What is NOT however pvp is people like yourself corpse camping a lowbie to the point they can’t even play the game they’re paying for. At that point it’s harassment which is against ToS. Sorry but no that is not world pvp, that’s a bunch of cowards without the spinal fortitude to fight people their own level because they know they’ll get wrecked.

pvp servers were justly removed because it all came to a head with the introduction of CRZ aka cross realm zones. People with your mindset would learn where the phasing boundaries were and then hide behind them, pop out and kill a lowbie or some quest givers then disappear back behind the phase boundary before they could be rightfully stomped by every able bodied member on the server. Questlines in certain zones were literally unplayable due to morons killing the quest givers and the corpse camping, which was NEVER intended. See buffs to guards as just one evidence of this. It got to the point groups would have to take rotating shifts of patrols of about 6 hours a piece just so people could play a game in peace. I pulled quite a few hours myself in those patrols. All because certain tools learned how to exploit phasing boundaries. Far as I’m concerned every last one of them should’ve been banned and made very public examples out of them. In other words it gave all the downsides of a high population server with no benefits.

As to why your precious pvp servers went away, when the small all of 10% of people who hold your views were driving away the other 90% yeah they’re going to get rid of them and rightfully so. If you want pvp today you have arena, battlegrounds, and warmode if you want to actually pvp. Except you don’t want actual pvp, you want to harass and grief because you don’t have the spinal fortitude to fight people your own level and even admitted as such. Far as I’m concerned they should perma-ban you for admitting you want to harass people alone. Also by your own logic if you wanted actual pvp, join said arena or battlegrounds. Your pvp servers went away because they became a detriment to the game and was costing the game subs. Simply view the myriad of old topics about it on the previous forums.

Overall you’re just mad that you can’t corpse camp people anymore because you know it’s the only way you and people like you can win any kind of fight. If you actually fought people your own level you would get stomped every single time. You’re also mad because you realize that very few people actually share your views as evidenced by how few play warmode and you can’t stand being in the minority. Though i will say thanks for showing us prime examples of the toxicity that came with pvp servers and why they were justly removed.

Except for the pve glitch people have been abusing to gank with it.

But sure, anything works at 100% intention when you dont look into it.

What glitch are you talking about?

Then don’t play with us other 10%? That was how easy this problem was to fix. It was called PvE servers. Ganking sucked, but guess what, it created problems in the open world that players had to solve which breathed life into the game. Old content is dead, why? Why would you go back, no point. I loved PvP servers because it was about PvP and the petty tactics and it created some of the most legendary server drama. I loved it and so did everyone else I played with until people like you whined and cried until they completely removed the fun for those who played on a PvP server to PvP and play Warcraft not peacecraft.

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Why does “not interested” have to be equated to “afraid”?

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Ya’ll really gotta quit taking the bait. It’ll get bored and quit posting if nobody bites.

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Exactly why does warmode not work (as implied)?