Bring back Mage Tower as a seasonal limited time event

And by having too much of it you also shun new players from the game, since they will never be getting that stuff.

It also feels really terrible for those who were there, were willing to do it, but could not do it for whatever reason.

I get the limited-time though, but getting an acknowledgement should be enough. This is exactly how AOTC and Cutting Edge works.

At least for those skins we had plenty of time to do it, since it was announced they would be time limited from the get go, unlike the AH mountā€¦

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there are probably thousands of transmog pieces in the game. having 1 set per expac or whatever unavailable isnt going to kill anyone.

that is your choice.

And this is why I stopped responding. You donā€™t listen.

Literally right there.

And you know what? Raids arenā€™t Class Challenges. Iā€™m done repeating myself.

How would you be earning it if you could just face roll the content now? :roll_eyes:

I have the challenge mode armor on three of my characters. Rather than get that armor on 2 more that I like the look of, I opted to help others get their armor on my best character. Still regret not being selfish for two full runs, but was my choice.

I got all the base artifacts. I can say I hated rushing it. But I wouldnt mind either way. Especially for new players. And if it means bringing back other old rewards thats good. This is a virtual world with virtual rewards you donā€™t even technically own anything you earn in-game. So as far as virtual licensing goes I donā€™t think itā€™s a big deal for a recreational activity.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY BAD THINGS ARE IN THERE!?

ā€¦

Iā€™ll need to borrow you for a day. We have a lot of damage to fix!

Making it scalable like AV

Yea, thatā€™s it. Make new challenges, then deincentivise players from doing them by making the rewards the same as past rewards. Makes perfect sense. Orā€¦or, hear me out, they make new rewards for new challenges.

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Why not both? So you can pick?

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Then people would complain that they wanted the old rewards so they couldnā€™t get the new ones. Also the fact that these were advertised as limited time, so bringing them back would betray any trust of any kind of announcement blizzard would ever make about content again.

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Because unless you can turn back the clock to Legions class design and Legendaries and also have tier gear in your bags as well, itā€™s not the same challenge. Therefore you shouldnā€™t get the same reward.

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Awesome idea, OP. Really good suggestion.

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It was not the same challenge even within Legion.
Anyone who earned it at the beginning had to work that much harder for it.
Doing it with Heroic Argus gear was pretty much a joke.

I did it with LFR Argus gear and it was already easy (I was determined to not use consumables/buffs other than what the class offered).

Even then, it could be a lot harder or a joke depending on which legendaries you had.

The notion of ā€œchallengeā€ you have is misguided.

For the challengeā€™s consistency, everyone should be forced into a preset gear/talent set and banned from using items. The closest thing we had like this was MoPā€™s CM Dungeons, and even that was skewed.

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Yeah none of this really changes anything though. Even with LFR Argus gear there was players that struggled. And the notion that gear alone dictated how all of the Mage Towers went is actually inaccurate. Yes there were challenges that you could overpower with gear, but some of them were a mechanics check as well that if ignored resulted in failure.

And no. I donā€™t want Blizzard wasting time making a preset for everyone and having feedback where people complain because they canā€™t figure it out. Iā€™d rather they make new challenges then cater to people who either werenā€™t playing at the time or couldnā€™t be bothered to do it.

Itā€™s gone. Ask for a new challenge.

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Then the people will still complain until it is made to be easier to obtain. God forbid people had to actually use CDā€™s, dispells, and proper cc to unlock an actual challenge skin.

Id sure as hell would love benediction on my priest, but i wasnt playing at a level where i could obtain it at the time. I was bad in vanilla. Now that i know most aspects of the game doesnt mean that i should be able to cry hard enough to get what others worked hard for at the time.

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Except most rewards are usually hard or time consuming to get with the then current ilvl and mechanics. They are trophys, much more than just an appearance. You didnt complete the challenge? You didnt earn the trophy. It isnt something that could truly be understood unless youā€™re in the position of the people who actually earned them at the time.

If you read my post I actually completed all 36.

Yikesā€¦ Well thats just grand i guess.

I did not appreciate rushing and doing it. I missed out in doing other fun stuff like pvp. Now I feel the same way with the Brutosaur. I wouldnā€™t care tbh. The mage tower was one of the greatest things about Legion and having it like an anniversary event would be nice. They are virtual items, they are dope, they are the highlight of the expansion. And some of the only Legion models available. I think if they want to do good by the old players give them a title, or toy or something. Adding is better for older players then taking away from future players.

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