Botting and now instance caps is a conspiracy

I’m not much of a tin foil hat person usually, but it seems pretty obvious to me what is happening here.

Blizzard has allowed the botting problem to run rampant so that it could justify this band-aid solution of daily instance-capping players. This will lower the overall capacity for high volume players to effectively create gold by farming and vendoring items from instances, and in turn lower the overall amount of gold on the market. It will also make it more difficult for boosters to provide their services.

The blanket solution to the botting problem, the gold shortage, and boosting shortage is to implement the WoW Token and a paid 60 boost. In my opinion, these problems and band-aid solutions are engineered for the sole purpose of making the idea of monetization in Classic WoW easier to swallow.

WoW in China has already had the token for months.
WoW in China announces weekly bot bans and lists their names.
WoW in China just implemented this 30 instance daily cap as well.

What tinfoil theory can you come up with to explain the cap in China? Maybe they’re doing it because the 100,000 accounts they ban a week isn’t even enough. Maybe they’re doing it because they can’t keep up and they need to try other things?

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In the beginning WoW tokens were implemented in China because their play style is different there; pay to win is very popular. It wasn’t really to alleviate the botting problem, at least not at first.

WoW in China is run by a different company. One that is actively banning the bots and naming and shaming.

What may work in China likely won’t work here if Blizzard isn’t willing to ban the bots.

SO until that happens you are talking out of your fourth point of contact?

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It’s almost not worth responding to you because you continue to push the same false narrative. Do you know why 100,000 bots are banned in China every week? Because banning them doesn’t stop them. Blizzard has said numerous times that bots are indeed banned in Classic.

Common Questions
Q: Why was the World of Warcraft Time Badge feature introduced into the World of Warcraft classic nostalgia?

A: We heard feedback from players saying that they want to buy game coins in a safe and legitimate manner, rather than through an unauthorized third-party gold exchange service-this is also one of the main reasons for problems with player accounts. We also learned that players who have obtained a lot of gold coins through the normal game flow also want to trade with other players in order to exchange game time and reduce their own recharge time. The “World of Warcraft” time badge feature allows both players to conduct transactions in a safe and straightforward manner. This also opens up a new payment option for World of Warcraft players, hoping that it will reduce problems with account numbers and improve the overall gaming experience.

Sounds like they were having a large issue with accounts being stolen and being used to bot.

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Banning them more regularly has more of an impact than banning them irregularly to not at all, which is Blizzard’s approach. Also you’ve said yourself that the number was in the low thousands from Blizzard - that is hardly enough to clean up the bots on Whitemane alone.

And it’s not frequent enough to make a difference.

You keep bringing up the actions of a company that isn’t Blizzard to try and downplay the problem of bots in NA. That’s… not relevant at all.

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It seems obvious that they’re not going to say that there was a cow to milk.

Forgive my memory but I don’t recall every stating a number in the “low thousands.” I don’t know how many bots Blizzard bans.

You linked a CM saying like… 2-3k or something was banned two weeks prior to the quote in question. So it wasn’t you saying it, it was a CM.

Given that was a while ago too, and we haven’t heard anything new from Blizzard, is telling.

Mmmhmm.

No, I don’t think I did. This is the one I link, the second one here is what was posted yesterday:

“I wish I could show folks the emails that I see weekly, of ban waves that happen”

The recent videos and forum posts about this are relating to a blue forum post on the China wow classic forums that when translated says something along the lines of we banned 110,000 accounts this week for botting.’

That does not mean they ban the 100,000 accounts every single week. It means there was 1 week where they banned 110,000 accounts.

If you actually cared to fact check, you’d see that they announce bot bans and list the characters banned every single week.

The week before that 110,000 ban was over 200,000.

And I wish I was a child again so I could take what people say as truth without worrying about lies or embellishing.

I’m quoting this CM because he apparently gets notifications, and I’d like to address him without hopping over to the CS forums.

We are not trolling. We are not tin foil hat conspiracists. We are - as you said - unconvinced without actual evidence. The fact that Blizzard refuses to let you provide said evidence to back up the claims is unfortunate, but also rather suspicious - given they don’t have to provide any personal details. I don’t think you never ban bots - I just think you are not able to ban enough and fast enough, as there simply isn’t enough resources allocated to that endeavor to make a big enough impact to be noticeable.

I see the same bots running around. When I see them, I report them - though given I’ve stuck to this character for a while and don’t go to lower level zones (and don’t do many dungeons at this point), I don’t see them as much as I did. But that doesn’t mean I don’t see them when I go to those areas. You need to understand our frustration with the total lack of communication - quite likely forced by higher ups and not the CMs themselves, though I have heard before that many CMs no longer desire to speak with players outside of places like the CS forums - and the utter lack of anything concrete. What we see in game is what we see as the reality, and that is that botting is just not hampered at all by the current system.

And this new change is only going to hurt real players who you may feel exploit the game. And that’s not a good thing, as what they’re doing isn’t against the rules until you make it that way.

In China. Not NA. You need to stop pushing that like it’s relevant to us.

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He isn’t a CM. He’s been working at Blizzard since 2006 as a CS forum rep. Imagine being him and having people like you constantly accusing him of being a paid Activision mouth piece. His job is literally to help people as best he can and you’re sitting here calling him a liar.

Accusing people of lying with no evidence is childish.

It’s even more irrelevant considering it’s a different company that runs WoW in China.

Where did I say he was a paid Activision mouthpiece? Where did I say he was a liar?

It’s fairly telling he didn’t respond.

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Who cares, ban bots if you need to. However I am not a bot, and I paid for a game. No way Im giving a company money and then being told how to use the product as well.

In addition, dont sell me Classic and then make retail changes. Thats not what i initially gave you my money for.

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