To make over $400 in a week while three characters make nothing in that same time is a poor business decision?
The bots running boosts would say otherwise.
So whats the argument, that another method is more profitable in a longer time frame? So what.
Boosts are the best method for quick profit. Botters are using boosts. it must be worth it to them.
And that also doesn’t change that bots would be botting regardless of the boost.
Because wait for it, neither one causes the other.
Are you actually trolling me? We’ve covered this at least half a dozen times already.
This is a poor example but let’s put it another way. You get a discount on WoW subs if you pay for several months in advance.
Therefore, who was “paid more” for their WoW sub: me, who has only purchased one month for $20 and will play for the next thee months; or you, who has spent $50 and purchased three months in advance?
I’ve “saved” $30 compared to you right now, but within a few weeks you will have saved me money than me.
Number of bots has increased because of boosts. This is visible to anyone who actually plays the game.
The only thing that actually causes botting is Blizzards complete and utter incompetence to stop them.
Citation needed. And even if it were true it’s irrelevant to the economics of the matter.
One method is more profitable in a shorter time frame. The other more profitable in a longer time frame.
Gold farmers use both. They are both a problem. But one of them wouldnt exist if it werent for money-grubbing Blizzard willing to make negative changes to the game.
Just deal with it.
Well the riot on jun 6th them lv. 58 mages in ZF you know all 50+ are def 100% not bots
Go play the game and see for yourself.
Ya whatever did those bots do before the boost. There’s no way they would have ever, you know, set up some kind of bot or something to level another character if they needed more bots…
I completely agree.
Citation needed.
/who maraudon
/who blackrock depths
/who zul’farrak
I spent a good two hours last night hanging out front of mara camping mages wearing the communal gear. You know, the gear they get from boosting.
The citation needed was for where you spuriously claimed Blizzard is complicit with botting because of “money”.
Going to need a source on that one. I would like you to show me that the overall volume of bots currently in the game has increased. I mean it was you who said
So which is it? They are increasing the number of accounts, which in turn needs more computers, or they don’t have an unlimited supply of computers and thus can only run a finite number of acounts? You are contradicting yourself.
OK, so there’s more demand and they have a large supply to last for a few months (at least) which means 3 accounts will make more gold before its needed compared to the one boosted account
If they needed the gold IMMEDIATELY the boost would be great for bots. The millions of gold they already have ready tell me they don’t need the gold ASAP so the boosts are putting more risk per dollar spent per account to be banned vs the 3 separate accounts AND it wouldn’t increase their profits.
The boosts does not increase their profit because they have millions of gold already ready.
The boosts add more risk of loss per $ spent.
The boost looses in gold generation vs 3 mon boost accounts (same price) for the average life span of a bot account (2-3 months). On top of less risk of a loss per dollar spent due to not having “all eggs in the same basket” so to speak.
So, why would they use the boost, give me a LOGICAL reason. They don’t need the gold now, it’s a higher risk for loss to use the boost, and they generate more gold using that same $45 for 3 accounts than the 1 boosted account…
Wait you understand these places have been filled with bots since day one right? And I mean FILLED.
Honestly I’d say there are less right now than there were in phase 2-3. They were insane back then.
Thats more an opinion and it has some decent reasoning. Im done posting anyway, bnet forums is like a black hole and the more I post the worse it is.
Asking for numbers that dont exist. Blizzard doesnt even release sub numbers.
Are you seriously denying that botters arent using boosts simply because “the numbers dont exist”. Gtfo you clown.
Over $400 profit in one week running a brd pickpocket bot. Theres your logical reason.
Running three clients from the same device also raises its own flags, that brings extra risk.
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The problem is, they don’t sell the gold instantly. And they have millions still available. So that “$400 in the first week” doesn’t matter as much. The average life span of the bot is what matters here, which is 2-3 months is the average. The 3 accounts outpace the boosted account around 1 month. So the better investment for long term gold gain (because they don’t need it now) is not boosting.
There is no logical reason for them to boost. Sure they might use it, but it’s not adding to bots in any meaningful way because they don’t gain anything from it logically.
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Has any real person gone out and tested the botters farm?
I’m sure some hunters have noticed that all the typical loot from a Tribute run now vendors for ~30s or under. There’s no reason to do it without Enchanting now.
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This is the problem with how a lot of people view this.
The money does not just “go into the game”, if it did we’d see Blizzard doing better work than what they are. So what is the money doing?
It’s proving that they can make lots of it off of an in-game shop. Now sure, you can argue the goods and bads of an in-game shop and what detriment it may or may not propose on the game itself endlessly but there is something inarguable about it.
In-game shops allow for a company to make up lost profit through minimal work requirements. What does this mean? Well let us take a look at Retail for a second. They too have a massive bot issue along with endless numbers of usually small bugs that overall have been completely ignored. Why is this? Because while these things bother us they do not cost Blizzard subs.
See in a situation without a quick and easy money making device like an in-game shop companies would normally feel forced to focus on the content and fixing things up to a standard to keep the subs as they are the sole revenue of the game alongside expansion buys. This is what we saw with Blizzard back in the earlier days of WoW. But all of this work costs money and time, thus they had a weaker profit to cost ratio. In-game shops however, including things like the TBCC copies, boosts and etc, come in and change this entirely so that the cost is well outperformed by the compensation.
And even if any of these things do cost Blizzard subs, they need only to look to their 3D artists and such to create another mount that they can toss up on the shop and it will be like it never happened. Why? Because as a company they are focused more on profit than customer happiness. It’s why Blizzard had lost overall 29% of their customers in a recent reporting and yet they had a higher profit.
So now the botters are quite literally helping make up for lost subs due to various reasons. I myself have unsubbed, but my sub has been paid over likely tenfold by this along with the other things offered for TBCC’s release.
TLDR; These things allow Blizzard to devalue the opinions of their customers as each customer can be replaced with a few buys of an in-game shop item.
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