Just play at his game. Accuse him of botting because he doesn’t think there’s a problem.
“Bots are getting banned. Everything is working just fine. No need to call for Blizzard to take action” coming from a botter is far more logical than thinking “Blizzard, please ban bots!” is coming from a botter.
Free server transfers ruined multiple servers and Blizzard “came to the rescue” with paid transfers. Botting in classic wow is also an inside job. Blizzard runs these bots and will, after some time, reveal that the only solution is to introduce the WoW Token into classic wow.
/tinfoil hat
I know people have a hard time reading but I’ve already said there’s a bot problem. Just like all the times I had to correct you on game mechanics, you’re just not a good listener.
Nice links. I know the responses. Thanks.
Its all by the same guy, and if you read through em, they literally say nothing at all except that “we try to deal with it and do, but we do not provide any real evidence that we did, and you do not see it ingame too either. But we certainly do!”.
I also love this quote:
“These folks aren’t slouches, they are clever and their only goal is to go undetected.”…
Bruh the do not even bother.
Btw none of the links you quoted are in line with your claim that they are still operating the same way as they did in 2011.
Keep giving Blizzard your money.
Just like you?
Allow me to clarify: you are responding as if there is no problem with the way Blizzard is handling the situation.
You continue to quote posts saying that they are handling the problem, even if those posts are quite old by now. Even assuming they haven’t changed their policy in any way, there is a problem.
Hell, the last post you quoted even details the issue: “Of course we want to remove exploitative behavior as quickly as possible, that hasn’t changed, but a lot of these investigations take time. Several weeks is not uncommon”
By the time several weeks have gone by and their “investigation” is complete, the botter has pumped thousands of gold into the economy, either in raw money or in trade goods. They’ve already illegitimately boosted themselves to max level, and probably boosted other people to max level. It is too late.
While I understand the logic behind observing the bots to detect patterns for improving detection and more thorough removal of bots, this policy has never worked in the slightest. It is most certainly not working in Classic.
Okay, so you admit there is a botting problem. Great, you have eyes. Now can you admit that what Blizzard is doing is clearly NOT working?
Bots in Arathi Basin this morning, several stopped at Farm for no reason, Hunters Meleeing other melee players, warriors running back and forth to the graveyard on /follow even though /follow doesn’t work in BGs.
This is ridiculous and I’m starting to really think about quitting. Too many things are broken and Blizz isn’t doing anything about it.
Welp, the devs let this game go to maintenance mode fast…
Collecting data, observations, to recognize patterns to implement fixes to stop the bots from working etc. doesn’t help your players. There are literally thousands of these bots running, and watching them in Stratholme or Zul’Gurub for 5min makes it clear beyond any shadow of a doubt that they are scripting. And they are almost certainly not stolen accounts or paid for with funds that are illegitimate - they are regular accounts paid for with money - which then they use to bot, make thousands of gold, then sell that gold to people for real life money FAR exceeding the cost of the account and subscription to begin with. They don’t need to hack accounts or use fake CCs anymore - there is minimal labor cost in running these bots. You all say “banning individual bots isn’t easy or what we do”, or “it is more complicated than that”, but guess what? Make it that simple, because we are completely overrun at this point. Stop collecting months of data on an account that is 100.00000000% a bot in order to chase the source, while they pour thousands of gold and items into the economy, and run literal cartels on high-demand items to make it impossible to play the game for the average player. You literally cannot farm herbs anymore. You will spend hours and hours and get literally 5 nodes. They have tens of thousands of gold to fix the prices of any item they want at any price they want. Supply and demand curves are not just fractured but shattered.
This game is a joke.
Imagine defending Blizzard in 2020. After they’ve proven again and again they are not just willing to lie, but that they are now consistent. Classic was supposed to be their redeeming arc, but of course they have to go the same route here.
I remember back in TBC when I was up on the Elemental Plat farming for my epic flying mount. I saw a guy flyhack and speedhack simultaneously. So, I did the obvious thing and filed a report in game. Within seconds (Under a minute), I was contacted by a GM for further information. They “logged off” about 5 minutes later, and they never returned.
I think we can all guess what happened there. Blizzard would never tell you they permabanned him, but just knowing that they were doing something helped. The quick response from a GM to your report was crucial for customer relations. This let you know that they were in fact doing something, and that they were in fact working quickly.
This policy that came out afterwards has never worked. This policy needs to be changed. What worked was GMs that were active and responsive, and had the tools and permission to moderate the game properly.
There wouldn’t be threads like this if they had open conversation with us. Stop trying to defend them
Why do guys keep subscribing to this riffraff? Everyone needs to quit now and Blizzard needs give us 1 month free and beg us to resub back.
Probably because they have to hire people to deal with the bot problem.
And people unsub because they don’t want to play in a game infested with bots.
Gals, guys - chill out. They need time to train their detection models to an acceptable degree of statistical significance before running development versions for acceptance testing, then implementing in production to finally provide scores to possible bots.
Give it a few more weeks or months and they should be able to pin point the Black Lotus bots from two months ago.
Or, you know, they could hire/cross train a few GMs to zone into Strat and watch the flying robo teams running 24/7 while waiting on the development from the hacks@blizzard team - which apparently aren’t developers according to the CS post that stated they develop solutions two sentences after implying their customer is lying to fit a narrative 
Botting did cost them money back in the day where authenticator and battle.net launcher wasn’t a thing. They had to refund hacked accounts that were used to bot, but now that there is a way better account security system in place, they no longer have this issue.
Now, all the bots you see, are people who botted to 60 and now fly in ZG to sell runs. Banning those accounts would mean they lose the future $15 of that banned account, so they just do nothing.
They have consistently stated that botting costs them money. 10 years ago and now, their stance on this hasn’t changed.
at this point only faith can help us
A few ways.
Any Bot that is actually paying a sub is likely using a stolen credit card, which gets charged back, thus Blizzard gets 0 money from it, and has still spent the resources hosting the game for that bot.
Rampant botting drives away legitimate players. When a playing field is not even, people don’t play. Think of AV as a current example. Horde win rate is too high, so the number of Alliance queuing for it has dwindled to a trickle. Same with the game in general if rampant botting and cheating are not minimized.