Boosting and Multiboxing

Mm, sorry it wasn’t intended as a personal attack, just that memory and nostalgia is a fickle thing.

Of course. I mentioned earlier that I wasn’t disagreeing on role priority.

ok, then I’m not quite sure what your point is. I have a holy priest again as my main in classic. It can still be a bit hard to find a tank. I suppose tanks might have some trouble finding a healer. But what is different, and I don’t think it’s selective memory, is finding dps is harder in classic in ways I didn’t experience in vanilla. It’s been suggested that’s because of boosting. I don’t know why it’s more difficult to find dps in classic but that sounds like a reasonable hypothesis. That’s what started this dialog

There’s more factors at work. Classic has a different audience than vanilla. Many players are tied of leveling, myself included. Boosting doesn’t change that, it provides an outlet when they might not necessarily level otherwise.

Players also understand aspects of the game much better than in the past. A player in vanilla cared little for xp per hour or had knowledge of which dungeons to complete and what gear they need to acquire.

Yep. Like the ones calling me a “Mental Gymnast” merely because I ask questions to better understand their position LOL

But, I guess that just means they never really had an argument, to begin with :woman_shrugging:

Why address that to me? I didn’t call you a mental gymnast and I’m not the arbiter between your disputes with other people.

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I was merely adding more input that both sides, those “for” and/or “against” something, have their fair share of name callers. It’s not just one side. And, IK, you’re not. I’m not asking you to be. I can “fight my own battles”, thanks :slight_smile:

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It’s not much on topic but take care all the same.

It’s more complicated than “name calling.” I try to never insult first and to engage in rational dialog. But I’m quite capable and likely to react with incivility when someone is uncivil towards me first. But even then the insult is contained within an argument that expresses my reasoning. I’m not going to follow the flow of your conversation to see where “mental gymnast” fits in context.

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Is it not? The conversation delved into calling people names. I merely brought up my experience in being name called, myself. Pointing out it’s a common tactic, around here regardless in where anyone stands.

I don’t believe in Name-Calling, period. Nor being irrational/uncivil. I like productive dialogue. Not a “who can insult the best”. Again, I’m not asking you to follow my flow of conversations. Just stating both sides have their fair share of unruly individuals. They don’t really reflect a position.

Not really. It was only one post and it wasn’t name calling. You mean well but you have derailed the conversation. It’s OK I was ready to retire anyway.

Thanks for the talk Rotsta.

Oh, well. Good night.

I was relating to the post, in question. I didn’t bring it up.

Players need to play the game the way I say, or it’s wrong and needs to stop. If anyone would like to know how to correctly play the game please feel free to message me for instructions and permission.

Yeah, we understand each other and have only a small area of possible disagreement. While boosting might have an effect on there being less dps for level appropriate groups it can’t be the only explanation. I’ve noticed it and on Bloodsail there is almost no paid boost runs.

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This thingy right here?

I suppose it’s all about how you interpret what they have written.

I read it more on the lines of this is what they are doing as a way to combat botting and nothing to do with the boosting or multi-boxing community.

I don’t think they went into any more detail than what was OP.

Even reading through a good number of the comments, i’m not the only one that felt this was for combating the bots. There was also a lot of, “Thanks for kicking the legit players while down” comments as well.

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Maybe you are concern trolling.

What? The thing you asked for a citation for was the availability of DPS outstripping healers and tanks. As Rotsa said anyone who things differently clearly did not play vanilla. Or are trolling as you clearly are.

I assume you mean didn’t know to join it in vanilla, which is understandable as there was no such official channel in vanilla. Tell us more about your vast vanilla knowledge.

Perhaps you believe that but it seems to me that many are focusing solely on “automated gameplay” as a strategy they think they can use to “win” and are unwilling to consider or discuss what Blizzard might have meant by “exploitative” because doing so might cause them to “lose.”

How or why would anyone bother when this seems to be the play of the day?

Person A: You are a cheater!
Person B: How am I a cheater?
Person A: You just are and you are ruing the spirit of the game

It becomes even more disheartening when people are pointing stuff out on how they are seeing things and are met with the wonderful, “Stop with thy foul mental gymnastics! you know what you are doing is wrong and just won’t admit it”

Some people here will never back down and always firmly believe this 30/24 change was to also slow down boosting, regardless of how blizzard words it. They can think that if they want, I guess.
Slowing down boosting is just a by-product of the change, not a reason for it. Boosting just got caught in the cross-fire and had to take a hit from the change. That’s all.

That’s a gross distortion of what happens here. While people may say this it’s usually at the end of a long discussion where people have laid out clear arguments to support their views without the other being willing to engage those views. If you think that’s all that happens you’re either not paying attention or you think distorting the discussion with a false narrative is a “winning” strategy for you. Or perhaps you’re just trolling to get a response

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I think it’s a reasonable and plausible hypothesis when faced with the limited information blizzard gave us.