I’m herb/alch since gathering with a druid is so nice. But I was reading that my BiS until Tier 5 is literally all spellfire. Ugh. Are there drop alternatives that are just as good or am I going to be mega gimped without tailoring?
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No.
But you do have to level leatherworking.
I’m not. Tailoring stuff is BIS but windhawk is good enough if I keep IFF up. Embrace the meme.
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No.
If you don’t want to min/max don’t do it. I’m sure you’ll be able to kill stuff in t4 gear just fine.
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You don’t have to go any professions, I think the only thing you HAVE to go for boomkin is 31 talent points in balance
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So you are not forced, it’s purple a min/max thing, the beauty of TBC is you have tons of Alternatives to “pre bis”, most guides worth their salt on youtube will direct you to alternative gear options that are comparable. stick to what you enjoy.
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Yes theres plenty of alternatives. But unlike those alternatives are severely underpowered compared to spellstrike and spellfire. Without being a boomkin TBC expert i’d say it’s probably 100-200 dps, Could be more could be less. I’m sure someone will correct me either way.
Not mega gimped but gimped.
I have to ask, is your spot guranteed? If so then don’t worry about it. If not then it might be better to spend the rest of this week farming up a tailoring kit for use once you’ve hit outland.
Windhawk provides 67 Stamina, 65 Intellect, 56 Spirit, 6 sockets, 47 critical rating and 138 spellpower. The set bonus is a small amount of mp5.
Spellfire provides 0 Stamina, 45 Intellect, 0 Spirit, 6 Sockets, 69 critical rating and 172 spellpower. The set bonus is another 7% of Intellect as spellpower, which should probably run 30+ spellpower.
That’s a significant disparity.
With the Tinnitus debuff, there isn’t any good reason for a Balance Druid to take Leatherworking. So if the OP doesn’t want to take Tailoring - legitimately BiS gear until phase 5 or later - their best option is to craft no set and just rely on drops. However, Druid T4 doesn’t have particularly inspiring set bonuses and it’s not as good as Spellfire (not for the least reason that school-specific spellpower is more ‘efficient’ in terms of itemization budget than all-school spellpower).
An argument could be made for Epic Season 1 armor from Arena. However, the main value of this would be increased durability. For ‘glass cannon’ raw PvE dps, Spellfire is still going to out-perform it.
No because even if you and your entire raid group didn’t minmax the damage you all do will be viable.
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True. Still not going tailoring lol
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It depends on what your guild expects you to do. If they don’t care then do you. When raiding it’s not just your 15$ a month that matters but the other 24 players as well. If they all got their bis they probably expect you to as well. Plus, I’m sure there are plenty of boomkin waiting to take your spot. That’s if your guild is a min/max guild.
I dropped alchemy on my druid for tailoring and put alchemy on an alt. When I replace the primal mooncloth robe in BT then I’ll drop it for alchemy again.
You can get rich with tailoring in tbc.
My argument is less “you must go Tailoring!” than “don’t go Leatherworking”. The primary reason to take Tailoring/Leatherworking phase one would be for the armor sets. With Tailoring, the payoff is worth the expense. With Leatherworking, it is not.
How do you make money with tailoring
I’m Skin/LW on my Boomie. Spellfire is nice but not mandatory. Boomies aren’t really there for damage. I’m there for my aura, FF and a little bit insect swarm. The difference between me doing 800 DPS in Karazhan and 900 DPS in Karazhan is not going to sink or float the raid. There’s this obsession with min/max pervasive in Classic that is assuredly going to spill over into TBC. It’s unnecessary and frankly exhausting. Is your guild shooting for realm first? Then go Tailoring. Are you just aiming to kill raid bosses, have some drinks and have some laughs in Discord? Then go whatever you want.
I like Windhawk. It’s versatile. Mooncloth is better for Resto and Spellfire is better for Balance but with Windhawk I can do both. I generally play 34-0-27 Restokin (outside of raid) so I like the versatility of being able to heal or DPS that heroic, or heal or DPS that Karazhan or contribute as a hybrid in a BG. My play experience extends beyond spamming Starfire in the back of a raid like an NPC and Windhawk fits my demands better than Mooncloth or Spellfire. I also like being able to drums every heroic boss. I also like how much gold Skinning/LW makes me.
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You know how you need the spellfire? Well healers need Primal Mooncloth and warlocks/shadow priests want shadowweave. The 3 cloths don’t share a cooldown so you can make each one every 4 days. If you are a spellfire spec tailor you will get 2 spellfire and you can still make 1 primal mooncloth and 1 shadowweave every 4 days. EVERYONE will want them at the beginning of the xpac. I have 5 tailors. Each of them will churn out 2 primal mooncloth and 1 shadowweave and 1 spellfire cloth every 4 days. They won’t be cheap either especially at the beginning. The start of each xpac is the best time to make thousands of gold easy. Since everyone wants the new mats you can price them pretty high and itll sell.
Mine will be primal mooncloth because my druid is going to be resto and will want the primal mooncloth gear. So i’ll make my gear as fast as I can while still selling 5 spellfire and 5 shadowweave every 4 days.
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Do what you want, free country. Anyone who say’s you have to do things are not American’s. Look at our History.
The min max sweat’s probably wont take you honestly. But do you want to be one of those? If you do you wouldn’t even be on these forums.
What if OP is not American? You do realize there are non Americans who play on NA servers right? The min/maxers need boomkins for Gruul’s Lair.
Yea yea i get it the Aussie’s and Canada folk and South American’s Love the U.S servers
And if the min/maxers NEEDED boomkins then the boomkins wouldn’t give into the demands of not enforcing there will upon them. If they do then they don’t need them that much. Besides nothing in BC is that hard.
Min/maxers will take the boomkins that meet their expectations. A min/max guild isn’t going to take just any boomkin. There are plenty out there who are willing to do the best they can. It’s not about what is hard. It’s about fun. For some of us being the best we possibly can is fun. Despite min/maxers wanting boomkins they still can do the content without them. The problem is there are still so few slots available to boomkins that they still have to meet the standards. If you don’t want to be in a min/max guild then don’t. No one can force you to play in one. However, if you do join one its not just your fun that matters. It’s everyone elses. If you don’t want to play the way your guild wants you to then find a new one. Don’t drag everyone else down because you want to be carried.
I agree if this person doesn’t want to mix/max they should go somewere else, it’s clear by there statement. and the way they opened up with they, how much they are unwilling to give up to be a min maxer. A majority of people don’t Min/max because we just see it as silly Been there done that etc.