I think more people min/max than you think. Otherwise the world buff meta would never have taken off. I think OP just doesn’t realize how good Tailoring is. There are more benefits to it than min/maxing. I am a tailor until I get T6. Then I’ll drop it for Alchemy. I plan to make tons from it in the mean time.
While i know a lot of people Min/Max most do it because they fear being the out group. We all know a majority of people did not like getting there world buffs etc, As some one who has lead these kind of guilds on P servers I understand both sides. Tailoring is insane for anyone who honestly wants to be a caster and the wealth you get alone is pretty great.
Alch is still solid, Haste potions will never be out of demand.
The shortest and most effective answer: Yes.
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TLDR:Yes you will want tailoring. For several reasons.
Moonkin are considered a bit weaker than the other ranged dps. This is partly because of left over effects of the hybrid tax, and partly because of negative player perception. Both of which spill over into TBC. Both of which can be significantly mitigated.
Since you have chosen moonkin I assume that you already understand the challenges that hybrids face. Therefore, as someone who has mained moonkin in classic from MC to kt down in naxx, I recommend going with the best you can get in terms of gear and professions. That includes tailoring. The spellfire set is just too good to pass up. Tailoring also provides a modest income on the side in the form of selling extra cloth, bags, and crafting any non bop items.
Ask yourself some questions:
- What is the actual difference (eg. in output) between the BiS and the next best thing?
- Is that difference small enough for you to be satisfied with the next best thing?
- If not, will your dissatisfaction with wearing the next best thing be greater than your dissatisfaction with taking tailoring?
According to my min/max guide I’m supposed to go LW and Alch or Enchanting and LW can’t remember which.
Yeah idc, I’ll stay herb and alchemy and do just fine after I learn the fights.
Do you have any other advice for playing classic balance?
No. I’m not going to bother because while the tailoring gear is good, it will be quickly replaced which doesn’t give it a net increase to me over something like Alchemy which I will consistently use throughout the expansion for consumables.
YMMV.
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Running spellstrike also locks you out of a meta gem. CSD is something to consider. Not sure how it’ll shake out valuewise, but it is something to take into account
Yeah I’ll second this. Playing low damage specs require extra effort to compensate.
TBD - if CSD is in the thinking is you drop spellstrike hood for t4 helm; spellstrike pants are bis either way.
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True, but then you lose some of their value by breaking the bonus. Maybe I’m being optimistic but maybe I’ll get the kazzak pants. I can also wear spellstrike pants without going tailoring, especially once you break the bonus.
If, in a vacuum, you wanted full BIS for that phase you’d go tailoring and leatherworking so you could get windhawk bracers. But then you lose out on engineering or ring enchants.
tailoring is likely still BIS, I just don’t think it’s as much of an issue as some people might think at first glance. My guess is that the difference is marginal enough that it will masked by differences in play and kill times.
I’m not too worried about going full min-max for early content. Especially as a living meme and whose primary role is really maximizing IFF uptime lol.
I mean technically feral BIS going into kara is primalstrike vest but no ones going to craft that overpriced POS. They’ll be wearing their clefthoof until T4 drops for them. No one, even the sweatiest min-maxer, is going to trip about their bear not wearing primalstrike in early content lol
then why make this thread if you aren’t going to be convinced even with the raw data
no profession is a MUST
Because I didn’t make the thread lol
try to keep up man
Also, to add to my previous posts:
Spellfire locks you into arcane damage only. That gimps you on curator, on some trash, and on your IS damage.
Now that is a marginal difference for a low chance item. I guess those pants may be slightly better.
This is not the case. Windhawk might be “realistic” bis, but they aren’t bis in a vacuum. Anyways, enchanting + bracer’s of havok are stronger and enchanting has better longevity over the expansion. And engi is always good.
This is not a good comparison. Crafted pieces are still going to be used into t5 progression, where they will ultimately be replaced. You will get multiple months of use on the tailoring items.
Anyways, do what you want.
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So I might be wrong, but I believe that the accepted BIS is:
Spellstrike Hood
Spellstrike Pants
Spellfire Belt (only provides arcane SP)
Spellstrike is BOE, and tailoring is only required for the 2pc bonus. If you run a meta gem you’re not worried about that bonus either way and you can still run the pants without any penalty.
You need the tailoring for the spellfire belt, but the difference between spellfire belt and windhawk is fairly minimal especially if you factor in lost damage on nature spells. It’s also going to be replaced very quickly in SSC once Belt of Blasting is a thing.
One SSC opens Vashj is going to be pwned quickly and you’ll be wearing your T5 helm before you know it.
I agree with posters in this thread that tailoring is BIS early game, my argument is that it’s much more marginal than people believe. It’s like people who were tripping out on BIS lists to go into MC lol
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Play what you want. There’s no need to religiously follow BiS lists. As many others mentioned, there’s a LOT of alternatives to gear drops that are nearly as good as whatever is BiS and a lot more attainable. You don’t need to Min/Max. If that’s your thing, then min/max. If not, don’t. Boss encounters will just end a few seconds slower.
I don’t play boomkin, but surely the alch benefits could be nice with +40% mana pots and not having to buy Pots/elixirs.
Pretty sure you want the whole kit of Spellfire gear along with Spellstrike, and you only end up using the T4 shoulders. Spellfire’s bonus synergizes quite well with the existing Balance talent that converts Intellect to SP.
Raids, or the ability to join one as Boomkin are doomed if Boomkins don’t tailor?
Would you seriously choose a bis slotted Boomkin over another…because of 100-200 dps?
WTHeck people.
Is there a mysterious prize Im not aware of for finishing reset gated raids that are completed a little faster?
Or are parse ranks that much more important to the community now?
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Yes.
Going to bed earlier, or resuming leveling an alt, or doing some Arenas, or knocking out some dailies, or…
Time is the prize.