Maybe.
Do you have your own list? I’d love to see how things stack up once TBC is out.
https://legacyplayers.com/Raids/Ranking/Default.aspx
PS SSC rankings:
Top warlock = 2300 dps… 30th = 1845
Top mage = 2200 dps… 30th = 1780
Top hunter = 2145 dps… 30th = 1700
Top rogue = 1715 dps … 30th = 1136
Top paladin = 1760 * … 30th = 964 … * seems to be a fluke as the #3 paladin was at 1240
Top warrior = 1850 * … 30th = 1145… * seems to be a fluke as the #2 warrior was at 1440
Top druid = 1460… 30th = 1080
Top shaman = 1480… 30th = 1190
Top priest = 1315… 30th = 1129
Not only is that around what i expect, it’s almost exactly what i remember it being in TBC
What do you think T4 will look like, just so we can compare like for like?
Is your prediction including the meta of the drums?
Drums are only 80 Haste Rating. They don’t make much difference, honestly.
But for what it’s worth, yes, I accounted for drums on everything.
Only important for the parsing-PvP raid-meta clowns. Most “normal” players will also consider things like class utility, class versatility, fun-to-play factors, etc. in their decision on how the various specs rank for them.
You felt it absolutely necessary to come in here and pick a fight, huh?
If the subject doesn’t interest you, feel free to just move on and not post instead of trolling.
If you’re trying to dps in tbc and not playing lock or hunter then it doesn’t even matter what the ranks are. From Kara until KJ goes down, outside of a few particular fights that don’t fare well, it will always be those 2, you only bring other dps to buff/boost aka support the pumper locks and hunters. That is how the game will be played, the community will enforce that meta and there’s nothing your rakings will ever matter. Luckily I’m a healer, so I could care less, cheers !
I’m sure you feel that way, but the point of the thread is to rank the specs regardless of how important you think that is.
The ranks should go:
- hunter
- Warlock
There we go.
I’m not sure if you’re aware, but there’s more specs than that.
But at the very least you’ll get 2 points. LOL
Well thank you for the disclaimer, but the other wrench being thrown in here is that paladin seal twisting is getting changed from a quirk of spell batching to being built right in. This is at least 150 DPS early and as much as 300 or more DPS late.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-classic-version-1137-ptr-is-now-available/838945/169
Shadowpriests are a lot higher than that at the start of classic. The crafted shadow damage gear is as good as T5 for them meaning they actually do good damage.
However shadowpriests don’t scale with crit and only scale poorly with haste so as other classes get better through TBC, they hardly improve.
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Give us your own list so we can see how right you are when TBC comes out!
Nah, that’s round about where I see average alliance players in T4 on a certain tbc “blizlike” server that I um, yeah.
I find your estimates to be too optimistic and theoretical. Accounting for boss mechanics and non-perfect performance I think we will see lower “full pump” numbers across the board. Beyond that, I left your rankings mostly the same.
For what I changed:
Retribution Paladin: I didn’t penalize their damage as much as all other specs. While the average will be lower, the spec is a casino roller and we will see those parses out there where every twisted seal attack procs SoC and Windfury for the lucky bastard. Those jackpot parses will pull the ceiling upward.
I also put Prot Paladin above Prot Warrior because I’ll be damned and reroll DK if I let some dude with a stick and a pot lid out tank me.
I’d say that for Bears too but lets be honest, they’re pretty strong. I’ll clown on the most of them but a good bear will still stay ahead.
As for the divide, Just Wait until you see my full dancefloor megapull.
I remember in DPS ranking back in BC, warglaives provided significant of enough of a differance that “combat w/ glaives” and “combat w/o glaives” was a thing.
Definitely, but I’m fairly confident they’ll share parses, so the 90th percentile of Rogues is going to be nothing but Rogues with Warglaives once we get to T6.
Well yeah, but I mean not all guilds were showered with glaives, so non-glaives was still tracked for the unlucky ones.
Well, you need at least 10%, realistically more like 11-12%, of rogues to have dual glaives for the 90th percentile parse to be defined by glaive potential DPS. Depending on exactly what the drop rate is (estimates are 4-5% each), each rogue will take 8-11 kills to have a greater than 10% chance of having the things. So given that there will probably be a good-sized population of people not killing Illidan in week 1 of BT, it’s safe to say that we’re talking a time frame of close to 3 months. Given how Blizz paced the content for Classic, it seems likely that the 90th percentile parse in for most of the BT era will be a rogue with one glaive (or none) and the 90th percentile parse in Sunwell will be a rogue with both glaives.