There’s really no need to be upset.
I’m not ignoring anything. We’re having fun talking about what makes it okay for one race to be given to an atypical faction and not okay for another race to be given to it.
Would it bother you if Humans were given to the Horde?
So it’s not okay to change lore to adapt to new needs?
Maintaining shields and portals isnt the same as being in the military.
They dont engage in fights against the horde.
Void elves were there dor lordaeron instead of the high elves.
They havent done aaaaaanything all expansion, and the majority of high elves are spread out.
They are not a central group, and if they are, they assimilated so they will eventually fade away.
Depends on if those “needs” meet opposition. If one half wants one thing, and the other half is opposed (and is supported by lore) why should they change lore, and upset the needs of one half over the other?
He was doing that from the start - he was simply cunning enough to start slowly and try to give the impression that he really was just trying to uncover some truths and evoke some empathy. He’s going to deflect every single time you (or anyone else) calls him on the apples and oranges nature of his approach.
A good question. Is it better to give both sides something?
I guess Training forces for battle doesn’t count either.
Or compromise, aka void elves.
What if one side isn’t happy with their compromise?
Oh no my friend, we’ve been at it for a while now, and I’m well aware that you resort to assuming tone of the post when you conveniently ignore points.
I asked you were your empathy was for the concerns of those that do not want High elves in the Alliance, I present you with my concers, and you didn’t addressed them and simply said and made it about “people being uncomfortable” when that wasn’t even part of what I said.
So yes, you are ignoring it.
Again, where’s your empathy for those against them?
Atypical? This is some interesting word to use here. Almost as if you’re ignoring the evolution of the story of the High/blood elves.
Yes it would.
Would it make you feel like something was taken from the Alliance if they were?
Being support =/= actively fighting hirde.
The U.S. has officers train other armies while taking no active part themselves.
The high elves are about themselves and nothing else.
Essentially they pay their dues to an ally that largely ignores them.
Well you don’t always get what you want simply because you really want it. Realizing that and moving on is part of being an adult.
Adulting is hard.
Should it? It’s just pixels.
So if High Elves were given to the Alliance, you wouldn’t mind?
My issue with wanting to add high elves outside of some toggle on the void elf screen that changes them cosmetically and thematically but not functionally is the time it takes away from what could be great and more unique races.
I always see these ten thousand post pages about how different high elves are than blood elves when it’s exactly the same lore prior up until the divergence. And even then, the rich narrative was, these guys stayed home and continued to work under the thumb of the alliance or studied in Dalaran, etc etc, instead of going on some amazing journey of independence and survival. It’s like if there was a mass petition online to shoot another lord of the rings movie, but from the perspective of the hobbits who stayed in the shire instead.
When we have all these other awesome races they could invest resources into making that could have more fleshed out history and be a more unique flavor instead of adding a fifth elven race to the game. Our underwater jinyu (who say they aren’t jinyu) friends for the alliance for example, tuskar, ethereals and many other races we’re talked with in the past. Most fantasy worlds have a dragonborn race that’s a hybrid that we don’t have yet.
There’s so much potential in other races to be amazing and be developed that, I wish they’d done high elves instead of void elves just to avoid this whole conversation. But since they didn’t, I’d really rather them not give us another elf, and do a quick fix like a toggle that calls you a high elf, gives you the fair skin everyone is after and maybe change that rift they make to an arcane warp, and their void power into something more high elf themed.
And you keep ignoring my other question, did you pop Evasion? ![:stuck_out_tongue:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=6" ":stuck_out_tongue:")
And just pixels, hm, interesting. Then I guess every single time you’ve complained about Horde Bias wasn’t a big deal after all, it’s just pixels and fiction, right? Not to mention, then it’s also not a big deal that High elves renamed Blood elves joined the Horde, then, it’s just pixels.
Why are you bringing that up?
Their name in game is “7th Legion Mage”. The 7th Legion is a military unit. I don’t know how much more clear it needs to be. Everything else you’ve said is entirely assumption. There have been no indications that they are “fading away”, whatever that means. This isn’t Tolkien, they aren’t all going West across the sea. The Silver Covenant we’ve had since WotLK is still very much a part of the Alliance, until you see something in game or in outside media that indicates otherwise. Such evidence does not exist at this time, I promise you.
Yup sure is.