Blood Elves

[Kizzan-silvermoon (Kizzan)]

Because that’s exactly what Horde bias is?

Blood elves have 0 reason to get a blue eyes option, right along side the green orcs having no reason to suddenly start turning brown again. That’s not how Fel corruption works.

But i don’t expect casuals on the issue to know their lore or do anything other than piss on High elves for the sake of spite.

[Softsong-aggramar (Softsong)]

I mean, they wouldn’t have had to hide if you know… Arthas didn’t invade them lol

[Kirela-arygos (Kirela)]

Well, the OP poses a lot of questions and the topic is pretty much always going to end up with the usual suspects fighting it out, so to speak. Chances are, the OP knew what they were signing up for when they made the bait.

[Silentsteel-wyrmrest-accord]

Yes. Absolutely. Because then Horde would have worgen.

[Arshia-alexstrasza]

I mean, they wouldn’t have had to hide if you know… Arthas didn’t invade them

the barrier went up before Arthas showed up. It went up right around the time Lordaeron fell. Greatest ally the Alliance ever had.

[Nuoh-illidan]

high elf fanboys talking about obssesive behaviours, really? those who are sickly obsessed with playing with blond characters, light skin and blue eyes

[Softsong-aggramar (Softsong)]

Even after the walls went up they sent priests and other soldiers to help fight the Scourge presence. Like at the Culling of Stratholme.

[Arshia-alexstrasza]

Even after the walls went up they sent priests and other soldiers to help fight the Scourge presence.

You don’t think the Alliance betrayed the Quelthalas do you?

[Cassima-greymane (Cassima)]

Well, they are the ones who left the Alliance- aside from the many elves who didn’t.

And it’s not like Lordaeron could’ve been much help, even if they were aware of what was going on over there. After all, the invasion of Quel’thalas happened after Lordaeron’s king was murdered, Uther and his champions were killed, and Jaina had taken most of the remaining Alliance forces to Kalimdor - per Medivh’s advice. Then there was still the issue of a plague of undeath going around.

[Lillithe-ravenholdt]

I may appear to be a death knight…

But really I’m a high elf

[Murgatroyd-lightbringer (Murgatroyd)]

I may appear to be a death knight…

But really I’m a high elf

Why not both?

[Lillithe-ravenholdt]

You got me A high elf deathknight…actually I think thats very possible. No reason high elves would be immune

[Silentsteel-wyrmrest-accord]

Since the DK intro is ‘you fell during the fight agains the lich king’, wouldn’t that mean EVERY blood elf death knight is a high elf? They died before the high elves became blood elves.

[Lillithe-ravenholdt]

Oh is that so? I didn’t think about that. So actually death knight blood elves would actually be high elves in lore if that is accurate.

Now I got some reading to do!

[Kazn-wyrmrest-accord]

It’s dumb that elves are allied with a Horde comprised entirely of their historic enemies with the exception of Tauren because Tauren did nothing wrong.

[Drougen-emerald-dream (Drougen)]

At some point, after feeling betrayed by the alliance

After being executed and harassed by the alliance*

So with all that being said, unless im missing something or just misunderstanding something, the blood elves are the exact same high elves that have always existed but now have green eyes and a new name as tribute by the remaining HE’s to the fallen HE’s.

Yup, except now they should have blue and gold eyes as well.

“Ultimately, it is a matter of time before the fel-power induced green glint reverts back to the blood elves’ regular high elven eyes.” - WoW devs

“Lore-wise, as high elves and blood elves are the same race (and the latter holds the majority population), it is not uncommon for high elves to be mistaken for blood elves”

So why is there a big demand for ones that have blue eyes?

Because the alliance think that a race that officially departed and was abused by the alliance should come back because they want blood elves on the horde side and can’t accept the fact it will never happen.

Would it have made a difference if these elves still had blue eyes but still called themselves blood elves to tribute their fallen

Not at all, in fact blood elves should have a blue eye option now a days.

Or if they had green eyes but still called themselves high elves

Then the alliance would have literally nothing to cry about other than “They should be on our side, not the hordes!”

[Drougen-emerald-dream (Drougen)]

I would agree with you if they hadn’t given alliance void elves–an even smaller branch of the original high elves.

They had to make up a reason to steal the blood elves from the horde and knew the horde would lose it if they swapped them factions but the only change was blue eyes and it would just be stupid all around.

[Drougen-emerald-dream (Drougen)]

If the Goblins were given to the Alliance, how would you feel?

It would be just as dumb. Horde races are horde, alliance races are alliance period. Faction identity has been a major part of this game since its inception and was one of the core foundations until pandaren, which Blizzard themselves acknowledges as a mistake.

[Sincubus-moon-guard (Sincubus)]

I would agree with you if they hadn’t given alliance void elves–an even smaller branch of the original high elves.

Yes and no. Its a race made specifically as a compromise, whether some people like them as that or not is a different topic. But they are also from a less finite source of numbers. Yes, the initial number of elves that turned into void elves was small but they came from a pool that’s much larger than the splintered off High Elves and we are shown plenty of examples of both High Elves and Blood Elves joining the Void Elves. That’s something that couldn’t be done with the High Elves.

I admit I wish they weren’t so weak handed in saying others joined up though and leaving things up to interpretation, just showing a single ritual of them turning a High/Blood Elf into a fellow Void Elf would do leagues to answer population question.

[Drougen-emerald-dream (Drougen)]

@Zaleos-quelthalas

Some went to Dalaran

Which doesn’t make sense, considering night elves exiled them from being anywhere near there due to them literally bringing Azeroth to the attention of the most deadly force known in existence and starting a never ending war…

@Zaleos-quelthalas

The elves of Quel’Thalas eventually would forsake their “High Elf” or “Quel’Dorei” name, as decided by their governorr Kael’Thas (“…we are no longer high elves”…) and became Blood Elves or Sin’Dorei.

I didn’t realize saying you’re a new race makes that happen. Sounds a lot like the people in real life who say things like “I’m a werewolf and not a human!”

@Zaleos-quelthalas

Meanwhile the High Elves or Quel’Dorei of the Alliance remained the same as they were.

Except high elves as a whole officially left the alliance, so it doesn’t matter much.

- YouTube

@Enekie-wyrmrest-accord

Would the addition of High Elves to the Alliance hurt someone?

Yes, It would be an outrage for a horde race to be put on the alliance roster with no reason other than “But we want blue eyed blood elves on our team!”

@Valarían-hydraxis

This whole situation was started by the DEVS, and they made it worse with the introduction of the Ren’dorei, If they would have done the right thing in the first place, and made the Silver Covenant a playable race for, the Alliance like the Alliance player base asked for this discussion would not be taking place. It would not hurt the game and make the alliance player base happy.

But you’re wrong though. Stealing one race and giving it to the other purely because of a minority of vocal whiners demands it would be outrageous.

@Midare-area-52

And just pixels, hm, interesting. Then I guess every single time you’ve complained about Horde Bias wasn’t a big deal after all, it’s just pixels and fiction, right? Not to mention, then it’s also not a big deal that High elves renamed Blood elves joined the Horde, then, it’s just pixels.

Nah, it only matters about things that THEY want. They’re extreme hypocrites and outright delusional.

@Enekie-wyrmrest-accord

Why would it bother you? They’d be a distinct, different race with their own lore. That fits all the criteria you said.

Having blue eyes =/= a different race or different lore. Blood elves are high elves and took high elf lore with them. Blood elves and what little “high elves” remain have been separated for less than 30 years and there is no central “high elf” community, It’s spread out hand fulls here or there so they wouldn’t have cultivated their own lore even if they tried. It’d be like saying “Oh that one dude over there? Yeah he has his own city, his own lore, he deserves to be a playable race!” Even IF you think that’s justification for them to be playable, there’s millions of races that make WAY more sense to be playable before that.

@Softsong-aggramar

Not according to Ion, the lead developer and lore itself. Blood and High Elves are the same race. c:

According to high elf mega fans their own knowledge of lore is more right than the people who made it as seen below.

@Joyeuse-barthilas

Myself and many longtime fans do, in fact, know Warcraft’s original lore better than many of the employees Blizzard hired during World of Warcraft’s lifetime.

I think they sometimes confuse official lore with the fanfictions they read, LOL.

@Enekie-wyrmrest-accord

High Elves already exist as their own separate entity that is officially affiliated with the Alliance.

Except for you know, the whole part about their faction as a whole officially left the alliance already after being bullied and executed by the alliance…

@Valarían-hydraxis

Because they are recognized faction already in game, Silver Covenant. Which they are against the horde.

Except they officially left the alliance ages ago after being mistreated, executed, and worse…so why would they join the alliance and not the horde? Where almost ALL their family and friends live?

@Drede-cairne

Because High Elves as they exist now are Alliance Aligned.

Except they officially left the alliance as a race before the game was even playable.

@Ralanthel-thrall

I fully agree. Blizzard should put an end to this once and for all where the remaining High Elves choose to re-align with Silvermoon

This.

@Drede-cairne

And the Sunwell is not “Full” of High Elves who are neutral it was a handful of visitors.

I guess you wouldn’t know since you’re alliance, but every high elf remaining is welcomed to visit the sun well any time they want…so if by “a hand full of visitors” you mean literally every remaining high elf, sure.