Yes they are. Dalaran is literally a giant city full of Kirin Tor High elves that are neutral. The Sunwell is literally full of High Elves and Blood Elf pilgrims sitting next to each other, as hard as it is for you to believe.
Funny how the outliers seem to be the exception of the rule when I point them out, but damning evidence of your argument when you point them out. And the feud between the SC and the SV was based off the misconception that the SV were responsible for the bombing of theramore, and when Theron makes it clear that they were not responsible they literally walk away from each other peacefully. Stop clutching to a plot point that was resolved as your sole argument.
If by âallâ you mean âThe extreme hold outs with heels dug in so deep that they are up to their knees in dirt demanding Alliance High Elvesâ then sure, all.
But the decision has been made. The High Elf faction is on the Horde. People just canât let it go. A difference in eye color does not make an allied race, especially when 80% of players are wearing full helmets. Plus, now that the Sunwell is restored, High Elves will eventually have gold eyes as well. When that happens, shocker, you wonât be able to tell a high elf from a blood elf.
As Softsong said, it could evolve also in High elves simply being absorbed by the Blood elves.
Or even High elves being absorbed by the Void Elves.
Even them slowly fading to obscurity in favor of maybe a whole new concept of half-elves.
I simply donât see it as advantageous to blood elves at all because, well, I have a fairly simplistic way to look at the whole thing; to see the people that flat out abandoned their home and family, refused to honor them and hid behind others while the Blood Elves and even Draenei did all the work to get the Sunwell re-ignited and suddenly feel so comfy they can go out to become another murder hobo⊠itâs like saying that all the blood elves did was pointless and they could have simply left the place when things got hairy since someone was going to fix things for them anyway.
How about the fact that none of them ever participate in conflicts in which it is alliance vs Horde?
The only major demonstrated of high elves vs anyone is when they went against the sunreavers. Otherwise, they primarily stick to providing support.
It has been stated by the devs.
Given that the devs stated they have assimilated themselves into the alliance rather than remain an independent race, and the fact that the two major high elves of the alliance both are going to have half elf children then yesâŠtheir role in the story is fading away. In fact, it has always been put in a position where the only times the high elves are relevant is whenever the blood elves are in play.
The silver covenant is a part of Dalaran, not a part of the alliance.
Dalaran is a neutral kingdom.
Any suggestion they are a part of the alliance is just poor interpretation and not considering the story for what it is.
besides the fact that they are not at all prevalent in BFA despite blood elves being prominent.
Blood and High elves are the exact same race, the compromise to the Alliance were Void Elves.
Itâs obvious by this point most supporters just want to dismiss anything that does not fit their narrow view on the topic, they have no intention of actually discussing in a discussion forum. Instead of considering the lore and how it has evolved(or being retconned in most cases) and accepting Alliance does have a playable High Elf, people would rather disregard any constructive or well founded argument.
They donât wanna talk, they demand. Donât waste your time, youâre not educating them as they will never drop the issue(because it is an issue in their minds, when in reality, it is not).
And the Sunwell is not âFullâ of High Elves who are neutral it was a handful of visitors.
All namable High Elf factions are Alliance and you have no proof or numbers to defend the idea that there are more neutral High Elves in Dalaran then Alliance ones.
Wow. Thatâs not what happened at all.
Taran Zhu stopped the fighting by stepping in between them and made them stop.
They agreed because they alluded that Garrosh had to be dealt with.
Funny enough, Veressa wanted to keep fighting because, you know, they killed her freaken husband.
You completely missed what actually happened.
And in the patch that came out days ago we still see hatred between the two groups. Thatâs saying something.
The most I do is joining groups for world bosses or certain WQ mobs and even then I donât even know which realm Iâm at and I leave as soon as Iâm done so⊠your fries are safe
It was full of High elves, certainly not a âhand fullâ as they were many just wondering around the well. And itâs likely that what we saw was merely an in-game representation, and that the flow of pilgrims visiting the well both High and Blood Elven is pretty high considering their even numbers at the well.
Just as you have no proof or numbers to defend the idea that there are more Alliance affiliated High elves in Dalaran than Neutral ones.
Uh that was what happened. Jaina implies that the Sunreavers had deliberately let Garrosh destroy Theramore to which Theron implicitly denies was the case, then Jaina tells him that Garrosh will pay for his crimes and Theron even agrees with her. Until then Jaina, and the entire Silver Covenenant thought the Sunreavers had deliberately allowed Garrosh to use Dalaran to destroy the Isle, hence why they were so angry at the Sunreavers.
The WHOLE point of that scene was the emphasis that the feud was squashed between them. And the Sunreavers specifically blame Jaina for the purge, not the High elves.
Most of the high elves that didnât get green eye from turning to fel magic, werenât in Silvermoon.
be in in outposts far enough away from Arthas or still fighting for the Alliance.
the easiest way to think of it is they are pretty much the same as the orcs, one has green skin one has brown. One is the original, one is fel tainted.
(warning just a metaphor donât get butthurt) essentially Horde has republicans, and Alliance wants democrats. They look, act, and generally behave in the same way, but both have different political stances. which is apparently enough.
Yeah, as someone who loves High Elves I would love to see them playable someday, but if people simply demand that theyâre either on Alliance, or not playable at all, Iâm not sure if it will ever happen. At least my solution allows them to be playable while simultaneously avoiding all the gameplay issues Ion mentioned when they were originally suggested.
There are even less Void Elves and yet they are playable
We donât want High Elves because they have blue eyes - we want them for their nonstop loyalty to the Alliance. Eye color is irrelevant here. The model in fact is irrelevant. We already got the model with Void Elves.
Largest âorganizedâ group, that does not mean they represent most of the High elves, and thereâs nothing to suggest otherwise. They are a small partisan group in Dalaran that is it. Besides that every other High elf you meet in Dalaran is friendly toward Horde and Alliance.
I both watched and played it myself. You should probably go rewatch it. Although you have a serious habit of twisting facts to suit your bias. Like the guards at the Sunwell supposedly being there to watch the High elves, despite guards standing behind the Sinâdorei as well.
It was also to start the rebellion, because at that point Jaina realized that the Sunreavers were not willing allies to Garrosh, and that had not purposely assisted him when the bombed theramore. They could have had this happen without Taran Zhu showing up, but they didnât. One of the undlying themes of Pandaria was letting âgoâ of hate, as it would manifest and become poisonous, it was the whole point of his speech to them, that they needed to move on and let it go. Theron even mentions this as a valuable lesson he and Jaina had learned in the recent patch. He literally specifically quotes Taran Zhuâs line about moving on.
Maybe you should pay closer attention and not just take away what you want from it because it suits your bias.
If so many of you can accept âracesâ pulled out of thin air by blizzard and be happy ok fine.
Then really whats the beef with PLAYABLE HIGH ELVES?
Because bu your own logic, they should be in game and you really should have no
proble,.
and please NONE of this âbiologyâ stuff Iâm starting to see here because thatâs just weird.
The nitty gritty beef is that we already have too many elves as playable races, and we donât want a race slot being taken on yet another literal refurbished model being released.
Thatâs it.
Honey, this isnât about what the Alliance wants - this is about what High Elves want. Theyâve sided with the Alliance for several years now. The mere thought of High Elves (at least the specific ones we refer to) joining the Horde is as preposterous as suggesting Ogres joining the Alliance.
I quoted my answer. You said I had did not answer.
Prove it? lol
Then you completely misinterpreted it.
Regardless itâs pointless as it is shown in the LATEST PATCH that Blood Elves still hate the Silver Covenant and the idea they itâs suddenly over is debunked.
Freakin irony lol
Take your own advice before dispensing it.
But Iâm going to cut this short because I donât want to get caught in another pointless conversational loop with you so Iâm going to Summarize and call it a day.
All Namable Groups of High Elves are Alliance-
-Silver Covenant
-Highvale
-Allerian Stronghold
Silver Covenant are not at peace with Blood Elves as of 8.2.
Old lore on them becoming a sub race to high elves involved the use of fel magic started to change them slowly starting with the eyes and possibly hair colors too, the best way to compare it is like Modern orcs and the MagâHar orcs though it didnât reach the severe levels yet as they stopped consuming and using fel magic in mass quantities early before it started to change them even more over the decades. Though on my observation the sunwell is now converting the blood elves slowly into light forged starting with golden eyes that glow.
Also learned an interesting thing, before lore retcon, classic listed the population of high elves to still be very massive as Stormwind alone had at least 20,000 high elves which is an even greater number than orcs in Durotar that had 13,000 orcs. They havenât given any new numbers since but it seems like the numbers are still on that level given how we still see high elves out the wazoo in a lot of places.
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