Oh so you can speculate but not that guy?
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Oh what am I speculating on? You made the assertion that blue eyed blood elf npcs were a sign that the fel was fading, I provided you with an example of a blood elf with blue eyes as early as TBC that disproved your “speculation” and you’ve ran around in circles.
And the funny thing is the FIRST reply is someone quite literally telling them the blue eyed elves were High elves.
Your whole thing that us getting the customizations must mean that some Helves are coming home to live permanently is speculation. Someone clicking on Blue eyed NPCs that call themselves Sindorei are a bit more than that even.
Correction. Blizz saying what it was in a CDev interview.
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Except it is just as easily an explanation as to why we have blue eyes as your theory that the fel is just fading. No official source has come out and stated which possibility it could be, you trying to assert it as fact is conjecture at best.
We don’t know what the blue eyed elves refer to themselves as, since we haven’t had any story updates on them.
The Dev literally said that was a possible reason, that does not mean that is why we got these options now. Since Danuser quite literally said these options were for players to have access to subrace options.
They have LITERALLY said this.
It’s not my theory.
A CDev interview did.
So you agree they aren’t always consistent?
It absolutely does. Way more than the theory that some NPCs are coming home to roost.
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Blizzard saying it could be a possible reason in the past, is not the same as them coming out and saying it IS the reason now, especially with countless rational possibilities. Your theory is just that, a theory.
They also called them subrace options, so
What does that have to do with consistency? It’s not like we had them refer to themselves as sindorei and then suddenly not, we dont know what a npc refers to themselves as until they do.
No, it “absolutely” doesn’t, especially when the alternative is just as likely. If it were merely to represent the fel fading, why would danuser call it a subrace customization, or tell players that these options were to help them identify as subraces in the game?
How about this, I stick with what they said. You stick with what you believe. Because I’m not going around and around about this.
This is all about you wanting to call yourself a Helf. Boom you’re a Helf. Have a good night.
They do literally say that though. Glory to the Sindorei.
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I’ll stick to what Danuser literally referred to it as, and it’s purpose than clinging to a Q&A a decade old that happened before the idea of making it an option was even dreamt of. But keep clinging to that.
Again, could care less after what Danuser said. It’s very clear you’re just covering your eyes and ears any time information you don’t like is said.
Yeah, we also have non-alliance humans that say “For the alliance” when you speak to them. Are we really using race dialogue as an argument?
I’m reading what was said. And that it was said that we are also Helves.
So they really aren’t consistent. So Darnarian was likely just another example. Nice!
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I’m literally telling you what was said by Danuser himself.
Consistent? What isn’t consistent? They’ve never changed the voices of race NPCs, trying to put stock into that now is only pointing out that you really are on your last leg.
Yes that we got Helf customizations because we are Helves.
It’s not a last leg at all. They are either consistent or inconsistent. The voice lines either make them Belves, or they are a mistake and Darnarian is also a mistake.
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Except Blood elf is not a subrace of Blood elf, Danuser said these options were for us to identify our characters as those subraces. Saying that “Blood elves are High elves” does not change the fact that these options were for us to identify as High elves, not to look like blue eyed blood elves.
This was literally the intention of these customizations by Danuser’s word.
It is, because in order for it to be inconsistent there would need to be some form of consistency to compare it against. But races have NEVER used unique voice lines unless they were an NPC of importance. Even races that do not belong to the groups of Azeroth will use their generic race voice lines.
Using that as an argument is so weak.
He already knows we are that race. And NPCs coming back to give you the official title wouldn’t make you a subrace either. You’d just be calling yourself by your race instead of the name used to honor the fallen. It was likely more intended for the others that are subraces.
You only think it’s weak because it doesn’t fit in with what you want.
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Then he wouldn’t be referring to High elves as a subrace if he was just referring to Blood elves point blank. Are we really that steeped in denial that you’re going this route? He clearly refers to the customization as a way for players to identify as the High elf subrace.
I don’t think anyone would be convinced by your argument on an NPC’s voice lines when they’ve never been a reliable way to identify a character’s race.
It’s not a factual subrace. So considering he was talking about all customizations, it probably was just a general term.
Just like the eyes thing is not a reliable way either. Since this is the game that had Sylvanas as a Nelf model for a time.
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A factual subrace? the fact that danuser, the lead of narrative refers to it as subrace says differently. And no, he has referred to the high elf options as subrace options as well.
Except the eye thing was reliable for quite some time, since it’s original purpose was solely that, distinguishing high elves from Blood elves.
So you are saying Blood Elves are not High Elves now?
It’s apparently not in the case of the blue eyed Sindorei that apparently are supposed to be High Elves.
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biologically Blood elves and High elves are the same, but as a subrace they differ culturally. Just like Wildhammer dwarves and Bronzebeard dwarves are all technically just dwarves. Your argument is akin to telling the Wildhammer Dwarf players that their customization is just dwarf customization and they aren’t actually wildhammer dwarves.
We are not a subrace of Helves. If you play through the RTS games and the Blood Elf quests in this game, you can figure that out easily.
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I never said we are a subrace to helves, but that modern high elves are a subrace to blood elves because of the differences in culture and history. Danuser even pointed these differences out as the reason why they added these subrace customizations, so that players could identify and PLAY as those subraces.