I could go weeks without loot like I said before and be fine, if loot is the only reason someone plays a game then the game really isn’t as fun for them as the dopamine hit of getting loot. I love the state of the game so wether or not I get loot doesn’t hold a bearing on if the game is fun or not.
I do not agree with this at all. I would rather have titanforging. Gear is not dropping enough. It’s frustrating and not fun.
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People did Violet Hold again and again and again until they puked because it was the quickest and easiest way to get the PVE currency. I’m not sure that that’s a great system to go back to.
It’s ok that you don’t agree but a majority of people don’t want BfA style loot and complained for months and now we have this loot system, a lot of people prefer this over BfA.
next week or one of these weeks, the guys who got lucky with loot in the first weeks will get unlucky and you’ll get lucky. RNG events out eventually. Yes, there’ll be those who are always lucky or always unlucky but those are statistically insignificant.
Except when other people are and you stop getting invites to harder content
Could you?
I mean you’re fine going though dungeons/raids with nothing to show for it?
You’re acting like people only play this game to get loot.
Sure, some people do that, but that’s their choice. And personally speaking, as much i like loot, if your activity to get said loot is frustrating or annoying, or boring, loot really doesn’t fix it. BFA’s Warfronts and Visions come to mind, despite being easy, can’t honestly stand to do them really.
Sure, loot isn’t the be all, end all of fun like you said, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be downers from time to time if you don’t get it, because of something that is out of your control like RNG. I’m not going to write them off as “Wanting loots and instant gratification every 1 second”.
Define BFA style loot here.
The most successful MMO with millions of subscribers, the one in which loot has almost always been RNG, should stop being bad (i.e., stop using RNG loot) and after 17 years give you BiS loot for filling an effort bar, just like world quests do.
Please, go back to FFXIV and your class-switching and insta-teleporting.
I’ve run four dungeons on three toons. I think I got one drop… For argument’s sake: three bosses a dungeon – 1/12 drop rate. I’m not cool with that.
I only get time to play about one hour a day, so spending twenty minutes in a queue for nothing is a waste of time.
I really like shadowlands and i’m super casual.
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Loot raining down on you ever 3 seconds.
Literally the only time I have typed BiS ever is to make fun of people who keep insisting that that’s what I want.
Please. Just stop. You’re only embarrassing yourself and wasting my time.
all right you don’t want BiS loot, just guaranteed loot for effort. Which has never been the case in WoW. You don’t like RNG loot and that has always been the foundation of loot in WoW. For 17 years.
You keep saying you don’t want BiS, but I think you want it even if you’re not saying you don’t. That’s what this whole thread reads like.
Wrong. We used to get badges so we could buy loot if nothing was dropping. And then you actually could choose BiS gear so that’s even better than what I’m asking for.
Listen. We can’t have an argument if you’re going to act like I want the opposite of what I’m saying and pretend you’re so clever for “seeing through me.”
If you’re unwilling to argue with what I’m saying and not what you’re assuming I’m meaning, then kindly shut the maw up and stop wasting my time.
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When we had badges people farmed Violet Hold or whatever dungeon was the quickest / easiest until they puked. The found it boring and accused Blizzard of trying to timegate.
This is what this poster doesn’t understand, but be careful they might just snap back at you if they disagree.
So? They were still guaranteed loot for their time, which you seem to think has never ever happened ever.
So you are, objectively, wrong about that. Just because the implementation wasn’t perfect doesn’t mean it’s never happened.
If I was snapping at you for disagreeing I would have done so forever ago.
I’m snapping because you’re putting words in my mouth so you can beat an argument I never made and pretend that you’ve won something.
So again, either actually try to debate what I’m actually saying, or just stay silent while the adults are talking.
I was kind of hoping you would actually define and expand upon it, …but okay.
I’ve never seen a loot shower in BFA honestly, it just looks like normal amounts of drops to me, since Legion. (That being occasional gear piece, along with a chance to receive gold or AP) Can you point to me where is this loot shower in BFA? because i’ve never seen it.
Because that’s the excuse to write off comments that are against this loot system, and therefore, doesn’t want to touch upon it.
I never said that they didn’t have any non-RNG systems. WoW has always had crafted BiS for some classes for, one. Its just that departing from RNG and making loot deterministic has been tried and it was a horrible idea.