Blizzard PLEASE do something about premades

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11/10/2018 07:55 PMPosted by Arthurdayne
so I just want to come home, drink a beer, listen to some music and play some casual PvP.


And that's exactly what I do, except some nights people quick join my queue.
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11/09/2018 02:36 PMPosted by Teneea
The only thing they "need" to do is label premades on the BG score UI.


I'd be ok with this if the just slapped a giant cartoonishly evil mustache on each character in the premades.
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11/10/2018 08:29 PMPosted by Tsataga
11/09/2018 02:36 PMPosted by Teneea
The only thing they "need" to do is label premades on the BG score UI.


I'd be ok with this if the just slapped a giant cartoonishly evil mustache on each character in the premades.


Fine with me.

But it's going to piss off so many of you when realize you're not losing to premade after premade.

PS 90% of the time Blizzard will match you up against another preformed group. I've run enough to know when you have real competition and when you're up against a group of people that clearly never meant to queue for pvp.

And I'll take the competition over playing against idiots any day. RP walking the flag in WSG across the entire map is only enjoyable the first couple of times.
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11/09/2018 02:20 PMPosted by Gravehowl
I've won countless random matches in Heroes of the Storm without having to use voice chat, and I always solo queue.

I get stunlocked to death all the time, no premade required.

That said, they should bring back some of the features that made voice chat less necessary in Vanilla, like big WSG flags trailing a huge red or blue trail across the map.
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11/10/2018 06:30 AMPosted by Thesandman
Kitana do you have a hunter named that and were you just in area 52? If so I say you lol

OP I admire you attitude and eagerness to find a solution to help make randoms in random bgs more successful.


Yea thats me i am leveling a rogue and horde kept killing her so i had to kill them all and teach them a lesson .
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I think it would be good if premades had some kind of identifier. The evil mustache idea would be an excellent addition to this goblin's appearance.

However, I think you may be disappointed to find out that most premades only consist of 2-4 friends playing together, usually without voice com. We just move as a group, so it looks like we're more coordinated than we really are.
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11/09/2018 02:20 PMPosted by Gravehowl
How am I, or anyone, supposed to like the PvP element of the game when I'm stunlocked by a group of 5 or 6 and can't even get to the enemy healer or flag, let alone use a single fking ability?


Maybe don't use relentless as a non-human and maybe hang with the team as a DK. I'm sorry but you're job is primarily focused on the team fight, if the rogues and other FOTM idiots can't do the objectives then it's GG.
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https://imgur.com/a/HYbSUvC

Yes. Please. These Sargeras premades are unstoppable! BTW, that would be 5man vs 5 man but you know, we're all from different servers so I bet to them, we were a bunch of uncoordinated pugs...
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11/09/2018 02:33 PMPosted by Silverbolt
You overestimate amount of premades on BGs. Winning team always looks like a premade.

Even so, this game shouldn't be tailored around solo players. If players went extra mile to form an efficient group, then they deserve success. There is enough bland fairness in this game already.


People like you are the problem with this game.
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11/12/2018 07:40 AMPosted by Failedwizard
11/09/2018 02:33 PMPosted by Silverbolt
You overestimate amount of premades on BGs. Winning team always looks like a premade.

Even so, this game shouldn't be tailored around solo players. If players went extra mile to form an efficient group, then they deserve success. There is enough bland fairness in this game already.


People like you are the problem with this game.


You sure the problem doesn't lie at the feet of those insisting on playing a 10-40 man battleground in a massively multiplayer game as isolated as possible?
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I laughed because I definately understand the frustration. How do you know it's a "premade"? Well, you don't really but you can speculate. Sort the scoreboard by kills half way through the game. When you are in a 40 man BG and the first 15 players are all one faction, it's a premade. Racking up kills like that requires a lot of careful coordination that is generally impossible in a random group. But I do understand that it's a multiplayer game and it will always favor those who are adept at getting groups of players together to have fun. I know it has to be fun coasting through the levels with a group of players you know well.
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So you're talking about greater than 5 man premades? Yea, those aren't intended and not what the majority complain about.
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I couldnā€™t disagree more. Premades in casuals have no place. Casuals should be a place where non-coordinated, non-twink, non-arena teams get to pvp without the added challenge of an organized premade. Iā€™ve seen this top discussed to death and you always have those for coming in and enjoying the complete domination of the other side because of the obvious advantage of team coordination. I agree, that is fun, but itā€™s totally not in the spirit of a ā€œrandomā€ bg of players who have to coordinate with complete strangers. I also agree that players should be able to form their own groups, but they also need a place to compete against others who are in that same advantaged category. Apples to apples, not apples to oranges like the scales are currently tipped.

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:joy: random just means the map and that its unranked. You can already solo Q ,I do it all the time. Thats also unfair to block me out of randoms just because I also group and do rated content . Pls get off the high horse for a min and stop trying to seperate the players. Now seperating twinks i can see that but the people who do a lil everything is a bit much. :unamused:

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Whenever this topic comes up I always feel like such a heretic: I miss being able to queue entire raids into BGs, or better yet, the days of picking which BG instance to queue for. Being able to take only four friends instead of nine or fourteen is awful. RBGs do fill the void somewhat, but not entirely.

OP, itā€™s not bad to want Blizzard to add more tools for PvPers to use, but at the same time a great deal of what youā€™re asking for already exists in the form of addons and macros.

Hereā€™s a macro I made to call incoming at subzone location, [mod:ctrl] call secure in raid warning or instance chat. Iā€™ve only tested it while walking around Stormwind so Iā€™m not 100% sure it works in every BG, but it should be fine in newer ones.

/run local name = GetSubZoneText()SendChatMessage(SecureCmdOptionParse("[mod:ctrl] "..name.." is secure; incoming at "..name.." "),(UnitIsGroupLeader("player")or UnitIsGroupAssistant("player"))and"RAID_WARNING"or"INSTANCE_CHAT")

Thereā€™s probably a way to include GetBattlefieldScore() with alt to declare a healer at location but I donā€™t feel well so Iā€™ll have to look into that some other time.

Honestly though, the best thing you can do to help your team succeed is encourage them to get into voice at the start of every BG. Ten people in voice will have a huge advantage over any premade youā€™ll come across. You wouldnā€™t even have to talk, just a few people calling out their interrupts, CC, and enemy healer positions will be huge.

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Itā€™s not a good 5 manā€™s fault that the other team is bad. Based on this logic we should ban all good (geared rather) players from relaxing casual PVP where rating loss is not a concern.

I couldnā€™t disagree more with your opinion but I do respect your voicing of it in a descriptive manner to contribute to the conversation.

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the solution is a solo only queue. if that ever happens RIP premades (or they will find a way to get around the rules)

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More like rip 2-4 mans. 5 mans will be easy to match since itā€™s 10/15 man Bgs. Who you are hurting with a solo only are the one or two buds who want to queue together since they have to wait for others to queue up.

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Thatā€™s fine. But Iā€™m convinced that MMORPG in a healthier state when there is a greater mish mash between kinds of players in activities.

If play field is evened out you just go in and play forgettable quick matches in the spirit of a PvP arcade. This is not how MMO RPG should be imo.

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show us when people are grouped together like other games do

thanks