Blizz you gotta separate out XP-Off Twinking

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

I said the damage is unjustified. It’s still avoidable, this goes back to the whole post about the average players and whatnot.

So, I’m supposed to leave my entire team and not, y’know, do my job by healing them at LM because I don’t want to be one-shot, thus leaving him to one-shot others?

Thank you for saying it’s unjustified… I guess it’s progress of a kind.

Source?

The fact that you’re not level-capped to do them.

Again, it’s player vs player not leveling only. If you show up in a bg you either need to be better prepared or just accept your fate that things will not go your way all the times.

Except it’s not progression content and Blizzard have explicitly stated it’s intended to be an alternative means of leveling. Twinks are extremely inhibiting and, in fact, deterring to the experience if pitted against players that can’t stand a chance due to gear disparity.

[Welfarê-silvermoon]

In other words, you can’t justify it but you’re still going to pretend it’s my fault, despite the fact that I’ve held my own just fine against leveling MM hunters but the twink one-shot me.

lol - you’re comparing apples to Chevrolets. The twink mm hunter was farming you in the graveyard and you fought the mm regular hunter 1v1. Because I can tell you 1 twink hunter isn’t keeping you all there by himself.

[Welfarê-silvermoon]

Except it’s not progression content and Blizzard have explicitly stated it’s intended to be an alternative means of leveling. Twinks are extremely inhibiting and, in fact, deterring to the experience if pitted against players that can’t stand a chance due to gear disparity.

Do I need to quote the blue where they also said it was there for low level pvp?

[Scharzula-earthen-ring]

Source?

I did not think I needed a source. Its kind of just a fact.

Again, it’s player vs player not leveling only. If you show up in a bg you either need to be better prepared or just accept your fate that things will not go your way all the times.

Why are you not doing rated battlegrounds? I have already pointed out these are the lowest entry level battlegrounds. New players and novices will be there. Why do you feel the need to farm sheep? Is it all you can farm? Maybe you are the baddie and cant handle the rated or arenas.

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

lol - you’re comparing apples to Chevrolets. The twink mm hunter was farming you in the graveyard and you fought the mm regular hunter 1v1. Because I can tell you 1 twink hunter isn’t keeping you all there by himself.

The screenshot was taken at our GY after our attempt on LM. I was with several others. Also note the amount of damage/kills they had to the other players.

As I said, you’re being intentionally blind to the obvious.

Do I need to quote the blue where they also said it was there for low level pvp?

If it has relevance, sure?

[Welfarê-silvermoon]

Its kind of just a fact.

Simply saying it does not make it fact. Twinks are not going anywhere, now that’s as fact too, isn’t it?

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

Simply saying it does not make it fact. Twinks are not going anywhere, now that’s as fact too, isn’t it?

They went somewhere before for less after enough attention was brought to the matter. I was there.

[Scharzula-earthen-ring]

Simply saying it does not make it fact.

Well, if random battlegrounds are not entry level battlegrounds, what are the lesser battlegrounds for less skilled players to join? Come on, I am waiting. I can’t believe you are even arguing this.

[Eilane-kilrogg]

You have to leave your entire team to be cognisant as to the location of the Hunter? Interesting. I tend to just stay at max range and LoS when I’m having issues with with ranged classes

[Welfarê-silvermoon]

@Kai-wyrmrest-accord

If it has relevance, sure?

@Ythisens

The intention of the XP-off feature is to allow alternate characters to stay in lower-level PvP brackets

there you go.

[Welfarê-silvermoon]

@Scharzula-earthen-ring

I can’t believe you are even arguing this.

So then tell me, how can blue make this statement:

@Ythisens

The intention of the XP-off feature is to allow alternate characters to stay in lower-level PvP brackets

Doesn’t it seem to you that you just want to spew forth vitriol and yet dismiss all those that disagree with you Lyfordeth?

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

You have to leave your entire team to be cognisant as to the location of the Hunter? Interesting. I tend to just stay at max range and LoS when I’m having issues with with ranged classes

Right…

So, let’s say I did that. And he was one-shotting the folks I’m supposed to be healing… the ones I can’t heal because they’re dead in one or two hits. What do I do then?

there you go.

… Again, I fail to see the relevance. This was also the case when twinks were in their own separate queues. This feels like derailing.

[Welfarê-silvermoon]

Again, I fail to see the relevance. This was also the case when twinks were in their own separate queues. This feels like derailing?

And yet the post was Dec 18th. It only feels like derailing because that’s what you want to call it. We aren’t separated anymore.

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

And yet the post was Dec 18th. It only feels like derailing because that’s what you want to call it. We aren’t separated anymore.

It’s derailing because it has absolutely no relevance to the current discussion. What’s your supposed point in this?

[Welfarê-silvermoon]

As I said, you’re being intentionally blind to the obvious.

Where did the 1v1 with the regular mm hunter take place?

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

Where did the 1v1 with the regular mm hunter take place?

In Warsong Gulch. Is that what you’re asking?

[Welfarê-silvermoon]

It’s derailing because it has absolutely no relevance to the current discussion. What’s your supposed point in this?

Then anything after the initial post can be construed as derailing. Ahh, I see. You just want to make a statement without having any differing thought on it.

As stated many, many times. You are complaining about overpowered specs and classes. You just don’t know it. Your best bet would be to petition Blizz about re-implementing spell and ability ranks once again so abilities can be better managed than them writing one algorithm to cover all the levels.

In Warsong Gulch. Is that what you’re asking?

And thanks for confirming that you couldn’t do anything against a group of players but them 1v1’s you rock. But do yourself a favor and learn what a valid comparison is.

[Eilane-kilrogg]

But he didn’t one shot anyone, as shown by your own screenshot =/

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

Then anything after the initial post can be construed as derailing. Ahh, I see. You just want to make a statement without having any differing thought on it.

You are truly making absolutely no sense to me. All I asked for what it was relevant to; you say everything after some point must be irrelevant if that isn’t. All I asked for you to point out is what point that quote is supposed to have. Am I supposed to interpret it a certain way for you?

And thanks for confirming that you couldn’t do anything against a group of players but them 1v1’s you rock. But do yourself a favor and learn what a valid comparison is.

“A group of players”, yet the screenshot shows me dying in one action from one player. Lack of relevance.

But he didn’t one shot anyone, as shown by your own screenshot =/

One action. Aimed Shot-Arcane shot at end of cast. Both hit at the exact same time.

One shot.

[Welfarê-silvermoon]

“A group of players”, yet the screenshot shows me dying in one action from one player. Lack of relevance.

lol OMG is he serious?

One action. Aimed Shot-Arcane shot at end of cast. Both hit at the exact same time.

One shot

OMG he is serious.