depends on key level because some packs and bosses definitely require 100k+ hps because of unavoidable damage
my overall floats between 50k and 75k usually in 20s (the goofy goobers in those keys die when they goofy goober too much thankfully)
Resto druids suck bad in rbgs
Actually - what I did was check to make sure what I said was true before posting it using Warcraftlogs and Raider io. The average kill time on the last boss is the same regardless if you are killing him on a 14 or a 20. Wipes begin at about the 2 minute mark. If you don’t kill it shortly after that, it is usually a wipe.
Additionally - in the climb from 14s to 20s you gain gear. That gear increases your DPS so that you can scale with the additional boss DPS checks whose soft enrage timers do not change regardless of how high you push the key.
I mean this isn’t a hard concept to grasp. You get gear, you do more DPS so you can push higher keys.
There’s a difference from blanket buffs to health and damage compared to targeted nerfs to specific mobs/bosses with health and/or damage.
Blizzard also historically does not like to buff thing once a season/tier starts. It is much easier to start hard and patch them to be easier.
If they made it easy in the beginning and made things harder GD would be up in arms like no other complaining about how it’s not fair for the people who pushed early on.
Healers crying because they actually have to perform the role they signed up to do is always strange.
healing was boring in SL, its fun now
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Gear is the same today as it was last week. You are assuming gear equals a dps gain. If I equip the 5 pieces that are “upgrades” I lose 5k dps.
Bosses take slightly longer as the key levels have gone up but we are saving time in other places.
Logs are a terrible way to judge what’s happening in dungeons as very few people post them.
So if you get the BIS trinket for your class that adds to your DPS, it is not a DPS gain? I mean sure if you equip suboptimal gear you are going to lose DPS. Useful gear = DPS gain. Not sure how/why you are trying to argue against that.
Key word: SLIGHTLY. You aren’t adding minutes to the boss fight by going to a 20 from a 14 unless you just overgear the 14 or make 0 gear progress leading into the 20. You are adding seconds.
What is your definition of “very few”? Because looking at WCL, there are over 120,000 logs just for NL. That’s just this season. People are logging M+ every day, from +2s on up. The majority of them are +15 or higher.
Literally nothing you have said so far in this thread holds up, but it’s YOU who doesn’t take ME seriously lol.
My 1sy key started at +14. So the only thing that could happen was for the bosses to take longer as key levels increased.
Bosses taking the same or less time this week has more to do with the affix than with gear or dungeon level.
But go on keep talking about how much stuff you looked up.
Yeah, if you sat in the same gear and did the same exact DPS you did in the 14. But your bad napkin math doesn’t take into account you increasing your ilvl and your DPS by gaining gear.
Ok my ilvl increased by 4 I’m sure that made all the difference as key levels went up last week.
Last week in a 16 (your run): https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/L2G9ZXnVR4HKQ6mD#fight=3&type=summary&phase=4 - Last boss dead in 2 minutes 54 seconds, your DPS 86k.
This week in a 20 (again your run):
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DWnbfwKLXvY9HqFQ#fight=3&type=summary&pull=24
Last boss dead in 2 minutes 58 seconds. Your DPS, 90k.
Your pally went from 75k DPS to 87k.
Your Shaman went from 55k DPS to 81k.
Your tank went from 37k to 50k
That is a 55,000 DPS increase from last week for your M+ group.
That 4 ilvl increase made a huge difference. Especially when you replace a 421 alchemy stone with the 441 heroic BIS trinket.
Literally nothing you have said has held up to even basic scrutiny. Just stop before you embarrass yourself more. At least before I didn’t know you existed.
This week is a different affix genius. It’s not even close to comparable to last week.
Literally, nothing you said even matters as the bosses are completely different from last week.
If you’re going to use logs to compare things at least take the time to understand what’s on the screen.
What does this have to do with the fact that your team, and you, had a significant DPS increase over last week? Considering the affix is on a bi-weekly rotation between the 2 affixes, you will also carry that DPS increase over to next week.
No they aren’t. The only thing different is their health.
You mean the logs that show a 55k DPS increase for your entire team or a 4k DPS increase for you? Anyway, while you are there, you should hit the “mechanics” button and review your run, cause ouch.
The logs you said were not reliable because “very few people post them”? Those logs?
Seriously, this is getting sad now.
What does any of that have to do with you claiming that the bosses die in the same amount of time as your key level goes up?
The bosses only died in the same amount of time this week as key levels increased because you failed to understand that you were comparing apples and oranges.
None of what you attempted to post as relevant information matters in the slightest because your base assumption failed.
Yeah a 55k DPS increase (on the same boss fight) is nothing.
You still haven’t figured out that the bosses had 30% less health to start with last week. Don’t you think that has more to do with them dying in the same amount of time last week? Or does your ego not allow you to accept that your argument was a complete failure?
I’ll just leave these here for you (these are your runs):
https://i.imgur.com/kohBaV2.png
https://i.imgur.com/Kj5JT0B.png
If my argument was a failure, how did you do a +19 FH (Tyr) 45 seconds faster than you did a +18 FH (Tyr) 2 weeks ago? Must be magic.
Blizz: Buffs Damage/Health 25%, then nerfs everything 20-30%
This is what JC PENNY always did! 50% off!
In reality they rose the prices before they have the sale.
Just to have the illusion people were saving money.