Blitz problem

To start, I’ll say I love BG Blitz. It’s some of the most fun I’ve had in a ‘new’ game mode in awhile. I cannot wait for it to be rated.

That being said, there needs to be some kind of tutorial for people. Or an entry requirement.
I am sick and tired of waiting 20-30 minutes for a que, just to get in with Tom, Dick and Harry who rush around with -0- understanding of how any battlegrounds work. A Battle of Gilneas where they three stack LH and then one runs mid to die repeatedly. Even while being told that we need them at WW and One can defend LH.
The list goes on.
Zerg mentality in AB. Tanks in WSG that have no idea it’s a capture the flag map / refuse to grab the flag.

I don’t mean something drastic like, 2000 rating in RBG or something.
But I think that people should have to have some kind of ACCOUNT requirement for rated. Instead of wasting -everyones- time.

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i know those 3 guys and they try their best. also every blitz map is set up to be a zerg fest. if you dilly dally fighting you might lose.

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At their core, bgs are super simple. Capture the flag, hold the orb, stand in the mine cart, capture the node, etc. Do you really think some sort of tutorial is going to help? I don’t think the concept is that hard. If you’ve made it to the point that you’re playing WoW, you’re going to understand the fundamentals.

Players are just inherently bad, don’t care, or are brainwashed to care about things that don’t matter by other players (like being top on the meters). Which really a lot of that is player behavior and could be fixed by Blizzard. Add learning mechanisms in the game/simplify classes, add worthwhile incentives, remove arbitrary scorecards/metrics.

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Some tanks are not flag carriers.

If your tank is not a GDruid or a vDH, someone else is probably better to carry the flag. Usually a DPriest or Monk. It’s probably better for your tank to be a distraction in mid.

Blitz is currently in the testing phase. It will become properly rated at some point in the future. That rating is what will prevent your time from being wasted, since, if you are good enough, you will rise above them and never play with them again.

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You know it’s being tested out, tweaked, looked at and is considered a casual experience right now so they make it ready for people like you to get all excited about when it becomes rated so you can show your skills :slight_smile:

I mean as it stands, someone like you should be able to be courteous and help people out to try to learn the blitz and it’s peculiarities versus heading onto the forum to complain about “people being bad”. Take ownership of your own games; I saw some monk do exactly that when he explained which nodes to prio and it was actually amazing how we ended up winning easily.

Blitz is fun most of the time every so often you get those “If I am not winning, everyone must suck” type fellers that make it a pain for everyone. (Though I enjoy them lol.)

Stay positive bro :slight_smile:

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:white_check_mark:

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Some times the way you lose does mean that most (not all) of the players in the BG suck.

For example, you are in a BFG and you are the only one at WW and you have only one player at LH but lose both due to getting Nv1d and then you look at the map and see that you have six players fighting a healer and paladin on the plateau away from the bases while losing those two bases.

In those situations, you are in the right to call them out and let them know that they suck.

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That’s not what I meant though. You are talking objective facts, I was talking a projected reality that often involves randomly generated barbs/comments that often make absolutely no sense at all. (And are just said for feel guddies.)

When interfacing with actual bad or non caring players; it’s a tough call while I try not to disrespect, when you do actually call them out or tell them to focus, wakeup, whatever; it generally just contributes to the toxicity as those sorts of players probably don’t really care and might be trolling or whatever.

The funny thing about Blitz is that just because you may get into a higher MMR range, doesn’t mean you’re playing with players as smart as you are about battlegrounds. There are dumb-dumbs and excellent players at every level.

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Agreed.

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I legit mounted up and ran past the blood dk(opposing team) typing in /say quit feeding the blood dk. After everyone quit being trolled by the blood do we won. It is amazing how playing smart can win games even if your not top fragging.

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Playing smart will net you more wins than top fragging in the long run.

honestly bro im sick of losing matches cause my team is just straight garbanzo im 800 honor level getting matched with people at 20 honor level like -_- had a rouge do 1.4 mil dmg out of the whole match on top of not even doing the objective. also sick of the pvers going in the mode too i get it scales but scaling doesn’t change garbage to good its still garbage.

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I think some people are recommending that new PvPers gear up in blitz.

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Lost an EOTS recently because two “hero of the alliance” players derped around in middle fighting over a flag they never got while the enemy team took two bases.

Then, when called out about it they start linking their achievements and calling everyone bad. I’d rather have honor level ten people with a brain than those two, honestly.

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How many people were those two players holding mid? Cause if it’s 2 or more, that’s likely not the only reason you lost, sounds a lot like the rest of the team couldnt pull their own weight. If it was one tank, that’s different

People get really mad at others for “fighting in the road” but people forget that if there is a fight in the road that means their team is also fighting in the road. Sometimes I’m 3 holding up 6 of theirs in the road, but if your team loses your team is going to be really upset about the road fighting instead of the fact that your team was given a huge advantage and still lost.

Moving a fight from a road to an objective doesnt always magically make that objective won. Sometimes your team needs to actually be good at fighting and kill things

Give me people who know how to kill/heal any day over people who think doing objectives is the only thing that matters

Ideally give me people who are good at both

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There is this, and there is the fact people don’t know how the Blitz maps work. When they don’t know how the map works they tend to just do things and focus on things that don’t matter objectively.

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Not enough to keep the other team from capping two bases apparently. Holding mid is pointless at all unless you can get bases. If they are Hero players I am assumed they could have been used to get bases. The fastest way to lose EOTS in Blitz is not having any bases as long as the other team isn’t capping flags.

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Maybe I will post the BG. We were horde. I solo took DR. We had two go FR. They took FR. We actually had two bases at the start. FR called INC. They lost FR. I ended up getting 4v1d at DR and lost it. All while the other players on my team who never went to FR even after INC was called or came to support me at DR just stayed and fought in middle without even being able to get the flag (which wouldn’t have mattered since both bases were lost anyway).

We had two bases at the start and the people in middle stayed in middle, two of which were the Hero players linking achievements telling other people that they sucked, when in fact, it was their stupidity that cost the game.

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Considering that I got 4v1d at DR and we lost FR even with an INC call, that means that they were the ones being tied up in middle by a smaller force. Honestly, if you do the number counting… which I did, my first assumption is that they were intentionally throwing.

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