If you’re paying in mats or gold the cost doesn’t change. Filling the order still costs just as much.
The bags for undercoins are very good for more people to know about, though.
What on earth are you digging from?
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Null Stones dropped below 100g a couple weeks ago. I was pretty shocked when I went to sell one that I found.
Apparently there’s a mining exploit that hasn’t been fixed that’s flooding botters with null stones. Sucks for miners but drops prices for the rest of us, I guess.
Wait… you know you can only get them twice per week, right? You don’t get anything past that. Once you get 2, you wait until next week. Again, patience is key.
A mining exploit? 
Well, now we’ve seen everything, I guess.
Ah right on, i was not aware it was capped at 2 a week. Still gonna dig em up anyways since there is nothing else to do while waiting for pvp Qs and pvp crates to drop.
I’m not sure there is an exploit. But in about an hour or two hour mining session I’m getting between 15-20 null stones now. There are times I’ll get multiple null stones per mining node.
Can’t say for certain but it’s been discussed on the woweconomy subreddit, and market prices seem to bear it out. Without seeing it myself they could be blowing smoke though.
They were 800g last I looked and @Brewa said they’ve dropped below 100g… that seems to be at least some evidence against the blowing smoke hypothesis; maybe there is an exploit going on (or just a bug if someone casually mining (not a bot) is getting 15-20 full null stones in a couple of hours (my prior experience was 2-7 fragments over 2 hours, not 75-100 fragments to make 15-20 full stones).
Anythings possible when it comes to filthy botters… that said. I think it’s just the fact that everybody has their mining tallents filled out that benefits null stone drops.
Like I said I’m getting 15-20 every farm session I do, and that’s while mining dirt and herbs farming pvp crates. I would get even more if I hyper focused on just mining.
Now multiply that times however many botters there are and other legit players. That’s a bunch of Null Stones.
Biggest economy issue is and always will be the damn bots that Blizzard does nothing about.
Why would you fill ai orders with your mats?
It’s a large source of Knowledge Points. Without it, you might never actually cap out a couple of the professions (unless scanning Trade Chat for orders dominates your play time).
It’s also a major source of the Acuity that is used to purchase a lot of your patterns.
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And you need to cap out because… why?
You can easily top out every crafted item in the game with only a partial tree, already.
And nobody really “needs” to play in hard content either, but I don’t fault those that do for trying to max out their system in the content that lets them enjoy their playtime.
This is content that I generally enjoy. And I would like to max it out.
The trouble here is just the relative imbalance between this profession and others… it’s WAY out of balance when compared.
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No, it was a predictable change. Null Stones were expensive because of Knowledge, everyone was getting fragments (which means it required several procs to get a single null stone).
When people got enough Mining knowledge to get full stones (usually the bismuth tree first) the prices for null stones dropped substantially. It was predictable based on mining knowledge available. Now, anyone who is caught up on Mining knowledge and put points into the main tree never gets null stone fragments so they could get anywhere between 1-3 complete Null Stones (or even more) from a single node so as expected, the supply multiplied itself several times over since on launch people were only getting 1/5th of a null stone per proc. Supply multiplied itself over five times, demand stayed about the same or decreased so price went down.
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Not wrong, we can definitely expect null stones to be cheaper at this point. The discussion of the exploit was detailed enough to infer it actually being witnessed, but I can’t personally confirm, and I do question it to a degree since null stones have dropped so much but the ores haven’t dropped into the silvers. So idk for certain.
I don’t think it matters much once you have your BS profession tools made and weapons crafted. Took me weeks to do it but now rarely need sanctified alloy. Customers always provide it. The real scarcity is in Concentrate. Three good orders a day at 5T and you’re done.
The secret to blacksmithing is to let yourself fall a little behind. Like all professions, the mats required to do the “catchup” work orders is far, far, less than the epic orders it will offer initially.
( I gather all my own mats and just do what’s possible with what I have; my main blacksmith is running 24KP behind being maxed out which translates to 2-3 weeks behind the bleeding edge curve of someone doing every epic order offered )