My Horde warriors name on Deviate Delight is Kade.
I’m going to leave out the names of characters and guilds for obvious reasons, but I was just curious what you would have done in this situation.
My friends transferred from a large realm to a small realm named Deviate Delight to rank up in PvP. I transferred to the realm to join them, but did not join their guild because it is already saturated with warriors.
I found a guild that had a spot open for a fury warrior and they told me that most of their warriors are already geared…so I wouldn’t have a lot of competition for certain items. They also let me know that loot was distributed through “loot council”.
Then came raid night. This guild…who shall not be named…wiped so many times in BWL that people in discord were begging for a repair bot. There were so many wipes that I was seconds away from whispering an officer to tell him I’d be willing to tank if they helped gear me up for it. I don’t think I’ve ever wiped that many times in BWL…and what is more sad is that the tank was geared, so were the healers, and so was the dps. Regardless…we eventually claw our way into Nefarian’s chamber.
After a large chunk of the raid dies during the fight (yet again)…the guild eventually downs him.
Ashkandi drops. My warrior is using blue 42 dps weapons…and is desperate for gear to get his dps on par with the raid. The guild then looks at the warriors who want Ashkandi…my warrior in blues…and a warrior with the best 1 handed axes in the entire game who is one of the highest dpsing warriors in the guild. Before they distributed the loot I told them that I would use it for 2 handed fury PvE. Before you say 2 handed fury is not viable…it is…and there are countless videos and forum posts covering this. Some of the videos I watched on youtube have around a 90% thumb up vote ratio. So before you comment on 2 handed fury…please do a little research first.
They then give Ashkandi to one of the most geared warriors in our entire guild. I go over and inspect him…he has some of the best gear in the game. I asked the officers “Is he going to use Ashkandi for PvE?” They replied “No, he’s just going to screw around in PvP. He’s not a PvPer…but wanted to just mess around in battlegrounds with the weapon and maybe try to rank up at some point in the future.” A guild member also whispered me and said that in officer chat one officer said “Whatever you do don’t give Ashkandi to the new guy.” At that point I did the only logical thing a person can do…I /gquit.
Why? If you join a guild that gives items PvE players desperately need to increase their raid performance to players for PvP…they will never be on par with the raid or even have a shot at being a top dps. I firmly believe that any guild giving out items for PvP purposes over players who need those same items for PvE…is a complete waste of time.
I didn’t cause a scene…I just /gquit and hearthed. I then started getting whispers from an officer in the guild saying things like “Deviate Delight is a small realm. Reputation matters…and you won’t be raiding on this realm ever again.” Basically letting me know that any guild I join they will whisper them and tell the guild to kick me…simply because I left their guild over believing that items should go to players who use them for PvE first.
Other officers started whispering me and saying things like “Did you actually think we were going to let the new guy have Ashkandi??? LOL.”
I then start seeing people from the guild spamming lies in LFG chat like “Kade never uses execute” or “Kade’s rage bar never went down the entire raid” among many other things to discredit me and ensure that other guilds don’t send me a g invite.
I don’t understand the concept of “Don’t give PvE gear to the new guy…give it to other people for PvP.” It feels like you are in some kind of a time based relationship with the guild…almost like a real life relationship when you date someone. It’s like the guild is saying “Hey you just joined us…so we won’t give you the gear you need to succeed in raids…but if you date us for a month or 2…or 3…well…then we might give you a little kiss on the cheek! How’s that sound?” Why does someone need to build up “loyalty over time” to get PvE gear in a 15 year old game? We are not dating…we are not getting married…I spend the same amount of time in the raids wiping and paying for my repair bills as everyone else…so why can’t I roll on the gear NO ONE NEEDS FOR PVE ON DAY 1??? How does “loyalty over time” change the player and guild relationship? Do I take on more responsibility on day 90 in the guild raids than I did on day 1? Nope. Do I do more damage on day 90 without any new gear than I did on day 1? Nope. Then what does it matter when I get the gear? This is NOT a marriage! We are not building a long lasting and loving partnership…like most people I play this game to have fun and get gear…not worry about my reputation with a bunch of random people on discord who are from all over the world. (I feel like I’m the only one with the courage to say this.) I know this is shocking…but I just want to log on and have fun. I don’t want to worry about if my e-rep is high enough to get 1 epic a month from now. You people are ridiculous!
What would you have done in this situation?