You skipped past the 50 threads on the front page about this exact topic just so you could come here and write that.
So they can play a competitive game but not a competitive game? What?
Nice dodge when nothing in my post attacked you. Reply to the substance or no?
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Thatâs not a personal attack, he asked you a question.
Substance left this forum three weeks ago.
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There is other ways to get Mythic gear than Raiding.
Like the Chest. Also, ALOT more than 1% of the community raids Mythic, 3% gets CE, and there is still a large portion of people that Raid Mythic, have Mythic gear but never get CE.
I actually read/been in alot of those threads.
None of them Put all 3 issues into 1. They deal with each separately in a bubble.
Only 13% of wowhead profiles timed a +10 or higher. You are drastically overstating the term âmythic raiderâ
I saw someone claim that of the 3% that got CE over half of them didnât kill any other boss on mythic meaning they paid for a carry to get the achieve and mount. I donât know how true it was but the person was on an actual CE roster when I armoried them.
Also the biggest culprit of getting people mythic item level in 8.3 was horrific visions. Thatâs no longer a possibility in SL. Your welfare gear will not exist. Pvers took a massive hit when being fully geared versus 8.3. This made pvp gearing more lucrative right off the bat before considering any of the other changes.
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Currently, the difference between the stats arenât actually that inflated, as someone who use to do bis calculations (when there was bis set lists before tf and wf, which to be fair is coming back), just because something is higher lvl doesnât automatically mean itâs better.
Even when ion said âwe want it to be clear that higher ilvl is an upgradeâ it didnât actually matter because it wasnât true then and it isnât going to be true now.
As long as the stat growth going into season 2 and s2 into s3 for slands is steady and not curved, we will be good enough.
It wonât be the best, but good enough is the only place it needs to be.
Didnât exist pre wod and ilvl difference players still could beat out with skill, scaling was a horrible idea
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where is jugga when you need them to explain this concept?
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yeah because there was zero reason to do them, way to critically think there.
Did we say they should? You are reading into things no one has said.
I even said if they should do rating top end at most should be 1800
With 1600 being between heroic and mythic, 1400 being heroic, and unrated normal raid.
But a higher conquest cap and larger requirements per would be better, rated higher will still gear faster and the non rates will get there eventually.
Like it use to be, even in wod.
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Spend hours looking for a Rated Battlegrounds group that falls apart the second you lose. Sounds like fun to me.
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It feels weird without her taking the white knight stance on all things and I feel like I am having to do that for her where thereâs still mountains of problems with the game lol.
You clearly havenât tried joining a yolo rbg group before. If you get declined to the few groups listed just make your own and it fills up in no time.
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Your right it didnt, you know what did? Resilence.
You got your BG Res gear, and got stomped into the ground until you got conquest pieces.
You seem to have rose colored glasses on what reality was back then.
Reality back then was fine, because there was a light at the end of the tunnel, Eventually through dedication you could get conquest gear, no matter what your rating.
The short time we had rating locked gear, it was quickly undone the next patch, or well lowered in requirements until being completely removed. Because it was a bad system, and it was bad for the game. And when it was a thing, it was Slots 3 pieces at 1400, 3 more at 1800, wep at 2100. That was fine.
Now its all the gear.
Also to be clear, I agree scaling was a bad idea. That should of never been implemented. That said Arenas should have been normalized from Day 1. Without normalized arena its not really a skill based competitive feature that it tries to be.
BGs and WPvP scaling should never exist.
Its like the Blizz devs are trying for the definition of insanity. Repeating the same experiment expecting a different result. Rating locked Gear was bad before, it was removed for a reason. Its not going to work this time because âReasonsâ.
Lets look back at that :). Granted this doesnt take into account the years of nerfing the reqs, removing them piece by piece, trying to make the same bad system work. This was when they finally acknowledged in NO FORM will this work.
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Yeah where is Jugga? Iâve been on this forum more than she has lately.
Not sure. I stopped hanging out on the bg forums as much and when Iâve somewhat came back to read these wild posts I noticed shes gone lol.
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Oh man less crit, they did that this xpac. Didnât do much.
Or in cata when the cap was 35% dmg reduc before stat calculations.
MoP was the first year pvp>over all pve
Not until MoP
Works at a hospital. Itâs a pandemic
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Touche.
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Yeah it really makes no sense. Rating locked gear has ZERO benefits. It only benefits the people reaping the rewards - allowing them to sell boosts or outgear people. The people who arenât benefiting from it, are screwed over. Just a horrible system.
This thread got spicy quick at the start. Iâm pretty sure mythic keys are locked behind the 2 week release break until the raid releases however
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In all honesty though, the upcoming SL system caters to people like Juga over how it was in bfa. She will be able to just do the entry parts of the end game story through torghast and maw, farm bgs and do her yolo rbgs and shes going to be equal to heroic raiders.
And how was on this toon and I got duelist
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