Like all old gods were you mean?
This is WoW… everyones just an inconvenience in the end.
Deathwing had an entire expansion dedicated to him (And he was a slave of the Old gods)
Burning Legion had 2 (and half if you wanna consider WoD)
Lich King had 1
Y’shaarj had its remains being the main enemy of the expansion.
N’zoth only really had one patch, in the last one he got free and the next one he just died, and everyone just forgot about him.
BFA started with the Faction conflict, then a fake Old God, then Azshara then Sylvanas and then N’zoth, they put too much stuff and it didnt worked, and didnt did justice to Azshara or N’zoth, at least Azshara its still alive.
Yogg was one patch ,C’thun was one patch. The sha from Y’shaarj was all the expansion, but that wasn’t really even him, his actual powers didn’t pop up until… the last patch of MOP in which it was dealt with in one patch.
All the old gods themselves have always been confined to one patch.
I wonder if they removed it because they got a C & D letter from the Tolkien Estate?
This is what some people are pissed off about.
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Like i said before, both Cthun and Yogg were weakened and imprisoned
And Y’shaarj was divided in the prime Sha that we had to deal with (one that wont drop me the stupid mount…) and his influence on other people such has the insect and their queen, he was a constant danger despite being mostly dead he had far more influence in the expansion than N’zoth.
N’zoth on the other hand was not weakened or imprisoned in any way, he was at full power and was just thrown away like nothing, and wasnt much of a treat for most of the expansion until the end.
Like many have stated before, Aszhara and N’zoth deserved their own expansion
I don’t really agree… but to each their own. I’m personally glad this N’zoth nonsense is over with.
Azshara is coming back, she’s not dead and she ran away from Ny’alotha apparently after being freed.
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now at somewhere over 12k now and bellular said its time to move on to something else.
crapavision will never learn wow died when they thought taking them on back in the bc days was a good idea.
i wonder if Morhaime n co had other offers other than crapavision back in the day
I think you all are overreacting.
They are. Severely.
They just wanna feel validated in their opinions, and will cling to anything that might potentially reinforce it, even if there’s mental gymnastics to do so.
We don’t have any information on whats going on, just speculation from people who also have on idea whats going on. 
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Duplicity?
Do go on.
Absolutely. It can be inferred that because of the graphics that were used in the three versions of the Shadowlands pre-order that there was a measure of deceit involved in the Eternal Traveler set.
Whether intentional or not (not sure how it couldn’t be intentional since the intent is pretty clear to anyone who deals in graphic design); there was some serious bad-faith acting done and the message being communicated was not in fact the case. In most business / contract deals that is considered the with-holding of material facts.
The graphics (which are still up on the cash shop) make it appear that the Eternal Traveler set is only for players who get the second or third tier versions. Moreover the fact that Blizzard’s team decided to later come out and say: “This is for everyone” is something that should of been included in the information about the versions, immediately. Not a few weeks after the fact.
Withholding material facts like that, shows intent and it did impact players decision on which version they would buy, since the people who had the lowest version didn’t know if this was a bug or not.
So yes even though one can tell from how you worded your statement that you’ll try and defend something that is frankly speaking, inexcusable; it was bad-faith business dealings in that it lead players to erroneously believe one thing, while concealing / intentionally waiting before disclosing a fact that would of changed that perception.
Not correcting a query about contractual terms that is a material part of a contract, simply so that you can benefit financially seems like a pretty strong case for unjust enrichment.
This sort of behavior is also a major reason that while I pre-ordered Shadowlands, I won’t be doing that with any Blizzard expansions again unless the items in question are clearly explained up-front. I seriously doubt I’m the only one who feels this way also. Blizzard is expected to engage in good-faith business, and when they don’t I will hold them accountable with my pocketbook.
This is the linchpin here where you’re having the issue.
You’re basing all of this on a picture, not what is listed in the description of what comes with each edition, of which, the Eternal Traveler set is not listed in the Base pre-order (just double checked store-page).
In essence, you’re making an assumption, without doing any follow-up or reading of a simple paragraph right under the image.
Your assertion is that this was intentional and deceitful, when, looking at other expansions for pre-orders, something like this (which includes a mount) hasn’t really been something normally associated with the base pre-order of the game.
You say that eventually they made this available to everyone, but I’m not finding anything to support this online, do you have a source?
Check the Battle.net shop on the launcher out. Additionally, there has been plenty of time to correct this. It has not been yet, nor accompanying text to explain the discrepancy. Thus one can only infer that information is being with-held, especially after Blue posters on the forums have stated that there was a discrepancy.
Specifically read the wording for the Base, Heroic, and Epic versions. At no point does it state in the base version that the quest is available to them. That’s kind of a big fact, given how WoW has functioned for 15 years. Nor does the Heroic version indicate that the quest is attainable by Base tier players.
Again, do you have a source for this oversite or correction?
Because literally, going to the shop and navigating to Shadowlands for pre-order, it clearly tells you which is in each edition.
Not trying to be difficult, but show your work when you make a claim.
Your ignoring facts now. Reread what I said.
You’re saying it’s available in the base game, is it? I cannot tell because it does not say so.
You say this is an intentional oversight and something that was eventually addressed. Where?
I pre-ordered the Heroic for the mount, my understanding is the quest comes from the NPC attached to the mount. If the mount was meant to be pre-ordered in the base game and simply wasn’t listed, it’s an oversight. You are accusing them of intentionally omitting the information and claim that they, weeks later, addressed the issue. Yet, I’m not finding any proof of this anywhere. Which is what I’m looking for.
Look it up on the forums. It’s right here stickied.
The problem here? This info was posted 14 days ago. Shadowlands has been on sale as a pre-order for months now. This is information that should have been communicated a long, long time ago, because it meant that anyone who actually wanted the Eternal Traveler set could have just gotten the quest instead of getting the Heroic Version to get a mount that offered the quest to everyone.
Blizzard’s delays in communicating such a important fact? That’s duplicity as I said. Look up the Webster’s description if you feel this was an inaccurate term to use. Moreover, if you can’t see the issue at play here; then your clearly missing the point entirely. Or you are ignoring it simply because you want to defend what is at it’s core, indefensible.
I see now. You’re nitpicking.
People pre-ordered Heroic for the mount, not for the transmog (mostly). As is the usual case with expansions.
Making the quest available via other peoples mounts could have been clarified earlier, definitely agree.
But this isn’t deceitful at all though, even on the description it states “The flying mount grants a quest for the Vestments of the Eternal Traveler transmog set.” Nowhere does it say you have to actually own the mount to get the quest.
Like nigh every quest in the game, they’re generally available to all players. (Think Blingtron)
Things could/should have been clarified, but again, this isn’t deceitful, just needs further clarification.
To which I would say if I were in a court room, prove it. Prove that players bought that tier for the mount, instead of the Transmog set. Prove that they were the one’s in the wrong to think that something like this would be available to players that bought a lower tier.
You cannot as that’s opinion, not fact.
What I have backing my statements, is 15 years of precedent and the design of the game to this point which strongly say the reverse was the expected result. Even you admit that it was nebulously worded. Thus even IF it was not intentionally misleading, it still reeks of bad-faith business dealings; if only due to the length of time that passed before the discrepancy was elaborated on by Kaivax. (Thank God that we have him posting info to us.)
All that Blizzard has ensured because of this matter (which still is not addressed in the one place it should be, the Shop) is that I, and likely many other players will never trust them on pre-orders again. People who bought for the mog have a just right to be angry about this.
Nobody said not to be mad.
You’re free to be as mad as you like in fact.
However you need to ask yourself what’s the point?
Why be mad about something outside of your control? There are better uses for your time and energy.
You’ve decided that going forward, you’re not going to pre-order anymore at least until you see 100% of what you are going to get ahead of time, that is a smart decision and one people should make more often and should have been making for decades now.
But again, what’s the use in being mad about it? That’s the thing that makes all of these forums effectively pointless. A place where people can come and have an actual discussion about something and people want to come in and be mad about everything.
If you’re not enjoying something, stop playing.
If you don’t like a situation, remove yourself from it.
If you don’t trust a seller, don’t buy or take precautions (you are doing this one).
There are quite a few people who are mad for the sake of being mad, being angry about something they have no control over and that is entirely pointless.
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