Your “evidence” is the absence of evidence against your claim. You are essentially stating “guilty until proven innocent, because there is nowhere at the crime scene that says that the accused WASN’T there”.
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In Cataclysm, we had three Alliance leaders die, lol. Two went hostile, and one became a diamond. But I guess the latter came back to life.
My Troll Druid sees Tauren, Trolls, and Worgen on the Vindicaar. My Dwarf Shaman sees Orcs on the Vindicaar. There are non Blood Elf Horde members there, as members of the Armies of Legionfall.
Even that basic fact aside, I have already shown you evidence of non Blood Elf Horde people being asked to come by the Draenei, as the Draenei asked for “all of Azeroth.” They did not request “only Blood Elves”.
Two simple truths. Deny them if you will. There is in game evidence of what I am saying, and 0 evidence that only Blood Elves went to Argus. Even the Draenei’s request is for “all of Azeroth”, and you read that as “only Blood Elves” somehow.
Who? I’d need names.
Wait you mean Benedictus and Staghelm?
The first one was less involved with the lore than Budd Nedreck, and the latter was the resident “where’s Malfurion and who is this jerk?” until we got Malf back.
I’ve got some real issues with Cata Alliance content, but… they aren’t it.
Oh, I actually do see where there are order hall NPCs. Alright, I’ll give you that. As a Pally, I always saw Paladins standing next to Liadrin, and assumed it was because of her being a Paladin.
I still don’t see that as valid evidence though, due to the very much varying perspectives. But, I will say you can leave it up to your perspective to decide for yourself how you feel about it.
I really dislike Blizzard’s decision to have different players see different things. It makes it impossible to verify canonical lore. As far as my Paladin sees, only the Silver Hand participated.
Fandral and Benedictus.
Who the hell are they?
One was the archbishop in Stormwind who gave out like two quests pre-cata and… was a trainer I think? He went void bonkers and instead of turning purple, he decided to try and kill us all in… End TImes? I think.
The other was Fandral Staghelm. There’s a lot more there with him lore wise, but I know of nobody who was sad to shoot him a bunch and take his stuff in Firelands.
So how do they stack up to what the Horde lost in lore characters?
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Hot topic gift cards. Save lives man. Save lives.
And they don’t Ardmccloud. Like I mentioned, Budd Nedreck was more lore relevant than Benedictus.
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Yeah.
My Troll Druid sees a Troll and a Tauren and a Worgen. My Dwarf Shaman sees Draenei and Orc Shaman. My Blood Elf Paladin sees only Blood Elves and Humans. So I chalked up your issue to the fact that maybe you only play a Paladin, so perhaps you just ran wild with inventing head canon based on that.
To say that the only members of the Horde allowed were Blood Elves seems sprung right out of your head, tbh.
The Armies of Legionfall were there. They were the combined might of all the Order Halls.
Then to reiterate, the Alliance leadership needs a good kick in the face.
Wait, are you referring to Benedictus and Staghelm? I’d hardly refer to them as Alliance Racial Leaders; and they certainly weren’t something that the Alliance really bemoaned losing. One was a High Cleric who went Void Nuts. The other was a Druid that was constantly antagonistic towards Malf. As for Magni … meh? He’s back, and more OP than ever. Blizz couldn’t even be bothered to do the fun thing and back up Il’gynoth’s whispers regarding him in a meaningful way.
As for the Horde, the issue is more that the Horde just has less characters to lose; and Blizz’s terrible track record on building up replacements. I kid you not that if Rexxar and Thrall hadn’t returned to the “Orcs of Durotar” roster, their most developed reps left would be Eitrigg and friggen Cromush lol! The Darkspear are worse off, with only Rokhan to their name; until something definitive happens to Vol’jin. The Forsaken have no one really developed left atm.
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Yeah, gonna pass on that. It isn’t like the Alliance didn’t take the pointy end. Particularly in Cata. The leveling experience is downright depressing at times, and often involved losing directly to the Horde without really returning the favor.
Generally making either faction feel like they’re getting kicked around by the other, or are losing compared to the other, is not a good plan for the player base. And really, with the “Grass is always greener” human tendency, it is going to happen anyway- we don’t need to actually be doing it on purpose.
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Be that as it may I would still like to do so.
Just to stir the pot.
You do realize you can see orcs(pretty much a whole host of racial NPC) near the mission table? Or do only have a paladin?
The Faction Conflict as a Story Thread would take a whole lot more of a nuanced hand to write a satisfying story for both sides. With Blizz’s current writing team, its all but impossible sad to say. There are some pretty good small-scale stories within BfA, but anything relating to the overarching meta-narrative truly is trash. These devs seem to think in very simply, flashy, bombastic ways. Very Michael Bay.
For example, if you wanted to pull off a well balanced Faction War Expansion, then Blizz would have had to commit to the expansion being truly Faction War. Vol’jin would also have had to remain Warchief, not Sylvanas. And it may have been better having the war follow a WWI domino effect; with small conflicts between individual nations eventually spiraling out of control as more and more nations got dragged into it to back up their formal defensive agreements.
Say … the Bilgewater vs NEs on Kalimdor, and the Worgen vs Forsaken on EK serving as the initial small nation scuffles and tensions.
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They were important Alliance characters. Back before we had achievement people thought benedictus was one of the defaction leader of the humans due to his health. Same with Fandral.
Not really. You just gotta be willing to play the whole of an event, or at least read about it, rather than throwing in the towel after seeing 2% of the story and declaring yourself the expert.