(BETA) Dragonflight Priest Talent Tree Feedback Thread

[Zyldamyr-hyjal]

[Emméry-whisperwind]

@Caithyra-stormrage

What? No Weakend Soul spammable PWS? Does nobody else not see this is a bad idea for PvP?

pws probs has like an 6-8 second cd to compensate so its not spammable like how it was in bc. edit im not saying PW:S was spammable in bc im saying it has a 6 second cd you can log into bc classic and see that for yourself

[Zyldamyr-hyjal]

My brother in Light, you need to read the post. It said these were some of the the changes - mainly the big asks the community has been after. I’m sure it will be in your favor once the Alpha build notes are released.

[Thelarias-zuljin]

they did say that throughput is mostly moving out the the class tree, so I’m expecting that shadow priests will want to pick from these for the extra suvivability/utility

[Aneurysm-nerzhul]

@Caithyra-stormrage

My question here is does Dark Void take the spot of where Searing Nightmare is on the tree

I highly expect the Class Tree and Shadow will be HEAVILY rebuilt from the ground up.
At least that’s what I think it needs. So current placement/pathing should not factor into any of the new features announced.

[Prayermonger-arthas]

@Caithyra-stormrage

What? No Weakend Soul spammable PWS? Does nobody else not see this is a bad idea for PvP?

@Caithyra-stormrage

Power Word: Shield now has a cooldown

I’m confused. Do you want to be able to spam PW:S on a bunch of people, or did you miss PW:S having a CD added to it with the removal of Weakend Soul? If it’s the former, aside from giving everyone a little speed boost, why would need a spammable PW:S?

[Skootalloo-proudmoore (Skootalloo)]

So, in theory, if that talent that makes PoM sometimes apply Renew is still bumming around in the class tree, that could mean PoM sometimes applies Atonement.

[Thelarias-zuljin]

Synergy… feels good

[Kaarna-proudmoore]

• Shadow Crash – Now applies Vampiric Touch to 4 targets.

I mean, it’s nice to finally have something that will apply Vampiric Touch to multiple targets, but Shadow Crash…

Yuck. I just dislike abilities with targeting reticles in general. Well, at least it makes the ability more appealing to use.

[Zyldamyr-hyjal]

I tend to agree with this, I mean they could make it like Seed of Corruption, where you deal enough damage and it applies Vampiric Touch to all enemies within X-yds. I guess its a step in the right direction though.

[Capslockfury-area-52]

As far as healing trees go - pretty happy with the changes overall. Will depend a bit on where the talents are located in the trees, but most of them are good. The holy priest power infusion talent is weird as heck though.

@Caithyra-stormrage

What? No Weakend Soul spammable PWS?

You missed the cooldown.

That said, I think renew being the atonement applicator is dangerous in raid and I can see them nerfing the disc toolkit as a result again, unfortunately.

[Thelarias-zuljin]

they could always say that “manual application” apply atonement if it becomes a problem.
Although we might lose some things like evang and the likes so we may be needing those “free” application of attonement? We’ll see with the tree I guess.

[Zyldamyr-hyjal]

Why would they nerf something that’s on a GCD that doesnt do much healing and is replacing another spammable Atonement applicator (PWS in its current form)? You didn’t really explain why you think it might lead to a nerf.

[Aneurysm-nerzhul]

@Kaarna-proudmoore

I just dislike abilities with targeting reticles in general.

Yea I tend to agree. I would rather NOT take Shadow Crash as I just don’t like that button and the risk of targets moving within the travel time. Hopefully its not really a MUST HAVE choice or with proper feedback, it can either be removed or pushed more in the seat of perhaps burst damage so its more situational. Guess we shall see.

[Metago-malganis]

Im playing a lot of Ele right now. Earthquake doesnt feel bad to play because its instant. Crash sucks because of the travel time.

Crash needs to either be significantly bigger or faster or locking reticle around a specific target.

[Emméry-whisperwind]

@Capslockfury-area-52

That said, I think renew being the atonement applicator is dangerous in raid and I can see them nerfing the disc toolkit as a result again, unfortunately.

i tend to disagree here renew dosent do much healing unless its been buffed recently holy dosent even really press it making it an applicator gives at least one spec a reason to push the button

[Capslockfury-area-52]

It does a decent chunk of healing - CERTAINLY better than PW:S’s healing currently - it’s just mana inefficient for hpriest. Renew’s never been an actual terrible spell to blanket with. It’s a huge reason why salv is good on its own.

Add renewed faith onto it, and you’re buffing all of Disc’s atonement by 10% in a raid burst window. That’s quite a bit.

[Caithyra-stormrage]

@Zyldamyr-hyjal

Why would they nerf something that’s on a GCD that doesnt do much healing and is replacing another spammable Atonement applicator (PWS in its current form)? You didn’t really explain why you think it might lead to a nerf.

Renew costs -60% less mana than PWS and if each tick renews Atonement than it’d be overpowered.

Also, I misread the cooldown portion.

[Kaztenshi-moon-guard]

Could we get the ability to remove the Shadowform appearance, to remove the dark void cloud while in Shadowform? The glyph was a good start. It would be amazing to have the option to not have the shadowy form appearance though.

[Caithyra-stormrage]

@Emméry-whisperwind

i tend to disagree here renew dosent do much healing unless its been buffed recently holy dosent even really press it making it an applicator gives at least one spec a reason to push the button

Holy doesn’t use Renew much because a single cast of FC Heal blows it out of the water. Also, it doesn’t scale off of Mastery and you have to stack versatility to improve its performance.