If we get a decoupled Void Eruption, so we have a good AOE button that also gives another option to spend our resource on… Here is my idea as a supporting talent.
What are yours?
I don’t want to be forced to finish a channel that has no cooldown or cost. I’d personally much rather see sear and flay changed to cast ‘until cancelled’ instead of for 3 gcds.
So if lets say you are on a target dummy, you can start Mind Flay / Mind Sear and walk away and go AFK and your toon will just go on non stop?
Although I think that would be pretty funny, I wonder what kind of issues that could cause. I don’t know, I got a weird inkling that something like this will cause some degenerative situations that I would think Blizzard would not want to encourage.
Lets start with this first…
Thoughts?
Discipline Archangel Talent Idea
- Archangel: Fate
While under the effects of Archangel, your absorb spells are increased by 20% and reduce the damage taken by 5% while the absorb holds.
If Archangel is known, also grant 15% healing done and instantly restores 5% mana.Switch (Choice) Talent
- Archangel: Valor
While under the effects of Archangel, your Holy spells deal 20% more damage and shield the lowest health party or raid member for 50% of the damage done upon a successful critical strike that lasts for 10 sec.
If Archangel is known, also grant 15% healing done and instantly restores 5% mana.
Discipline Dark Archangel Talent Idea
- Dark Archangel: Shadow
While under the effects of Dark Archangel, Your Holy Spells are consumed by Shadow, taking on the effect of shadow and grants your group and raid members 10% leech.
If Dark Archangel is known, Increase Shadow damage by 20% and haste by 5%.Switch (Choice) Talent
- Dark Archangel: Covenant
While under the effects of Dark Archangel, Instantly reset the cooldown of Shadow Covenant and Schism and granting an additional charge while increasing their effectiveness by 50%
If Dark Archangel is known, Increase Shadow damage by 20% and haste by 5%.
See below for 1st take on adjusting the talent tree.
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That’s fair, but maybe something more like mistweaver where the channel is so long you’d never have not naturally cut it by the time it ended. Currently it’s 8 seconds but it used to be a lot more.
I thought that’s where you were going.
I can definitely agree with you on that as the constant focus on the clipping nature of Mind Flay and Mind Sear is a slight annoyance…
But if it acted like the Mistweaver channel, does that solve the issue of clipping? Or rather, what is your goal in this change being implemented?
“…from the past” in my post is obviously, in context, referring back to the prior sentence. But after having gone back and forth with you for so long, I shouldn’t be surprised that context is hard for you.
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Read the rest
Oh mb. I jumped to conclusions a bit there 
I am wrong in interpreting the last 1000 posts here as a round-table for 3-5 posters?
I appreciate the effort, but I would be nice not to have other perspectives drowned out by dozens of posts.
Do you know who the audience is for this thread?
Obviously the people who want to keep discipline the way it is are mythic raiders. So they should get all the say?
This type of out-of-the-gate bravado is what turns people off from even engaging in these forums because they know some shmuck mythic raider is going to come in and be like “well have you learned to play discipline at a high level yet? no, then I don’t think we should take your suggestions as serious until you do”
that’s the problem
I’m honestly not clear how your post addresses mine. I’m not a mythic raider by any stretch.
We definitely want other voices in this thread. But there are a couple struggles happening in this thread. It’s literally a public forum: you can post whatever you want. No one is going to drown out your post.
What I mean by “drowning out” a post is that I have to scroll past roughly 100 posts to see a perspective from a player that doesn’t make 100 posts a day here (numbers pulled from thin air to make a point).
Again, I respect the effort, but I wish posts were condensed instead of replying like this is a personal text thread.
Unfortunately this isn’t exactly accurate.
I would argue that the reason why this thread is as bloated as it is, is the “attempt” to drown out thoughts/ideas/opinions that some few posters do not want to be discussed as it creates the “wrong” discussion in their view. Which then results in the bloated back and forth.
Fortunately however, some of us are unmoved by their attempts. However, its the readers that suffer the most from the tirade that inevitably ensues.
To be fair, our trees have been out for what? A month and a half/ 2 months?
And there hasn’t been anything done to them from blizz except very minor tweaks one week after release.
So the feedback on current trees is stagnant, as are our current trees.
So this thread has basically turned to theoricrafting/wishful thinking unfortunately…
Power word update the update is our class tree is abysmal and we dont have a class dev currently
Reduce the amount of times you have to reapply mind flay / sear, and move the “Fully finishing a channel” so far away from expected gameplay that it no longer feels ‘bad’ to clip it. If you get given an 8 second channel you never expect to finish it, you recognise it’s just filler, but at 3 people feel weirder about cutting it short.
You know that most of disc absorb comes from rapture or spirit shell (and they are mutually exclusive on live) so a cd to improve 1 other cd 
Not a fan of smart heals personnally. But faor enough. Our wod disc fanatic might like it.
Might be interresting to test out I guess.
Those aren’t exactly long cds though.
Again. I feel you’re just adding cda to a spec that already have a ton of buttons to press. It’s already a concern with current df tree (that doesn’t add all that much to the existing list of spells that we have…)