I’m not even in the guild anymore bro. No one asked you to come to the thread and read it…
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Just ignore him. People like that come into all these threads just to crap on the thread maker since their lives are so sad that they only feel cool and better when they crap on another person.
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Ok time for work. Thank you all for your advice and input on the covenants. I will be sticking with Venthyr on my lock as I look for another guild with a dps spot open for someone that didn’t choose the optimal choice seeing’s as my single target dps is still pretty darn high without it. If I can’t find one I’ll just suck it up an buy my carry like a pleb or wait till later in the xpac when people arn’t playing as much.
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This is a pretty odd issue that we currently face
So I picked what ever I wanted; went with a survival hunter that’s venthyr
I really like flaying shot and the teleport however the covenant overall is very poor for hunter performance as it’s the weakest ST and provides no AoE
Currently I’ve been raiding some normal with my guild but I wouldn’t have been able to make the core roster but my roster will soon change and I’ll be able to do it
The problem now is Id like to be able to go a higher performance covenant if I’m going to be tackling content that’s a little more serious
I highly doubt my guild would bench me for a bad covenant pick unless my dps was really starting to fall behind
And if the Raid Leader expects their Warlocks to play both Affliction and Destruction, which has been the norm for Warlocks to do for the past 10 years or so, picking a Kyrian based on that is perfectly fine reasoning.
Even though he’s technically wrong, his point would still stand regardless, as both Kyrian and Night Fae are head and shoulders over Venthyr.
See that’s where I have to wonder how true it is. I have venthyr on my hunter and flayed shot is a real nice and strong ability.
he let the mask slip.
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It’s the worst ability for hunters by a long shot
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I either don’t believe this happened or there are so many things wrong with this social group that Blizzard’s decisions with Covenants are completely irrelevant.
While this particular guild leader did sound like a douche, just because a guild tells you what covenant to pick doesn’t automatically make them horrible.
The better the guild the more inclined they will be to want their raiders to follow the rules. For example, most top guilds are holding off crafting legendaries because they are waiting to see if for example MM gets nerfed and their hunters will be swapping to BM. Does this make them bad or mean guilds? Absolutely not, it is up to each individual player to decide how much they care about performance, and find a guild that fits their needs.
Now, back to OP, if you are just raiding heroic you should be fine picking any covenant as long as you get good and perform the rest of your rotation adequately.
Night Fae is the Best for Affliction lock anyways 
The problem with proc abilities and trying to feelycraft them is that you’re going to get a good string of procs and think the ability is absolute nuts, even if the ability consistently underperforms.
Especially when you’ve got the inherent bias of really wanting to be a specific Covenant because of things besides that ability.
Unironically, I would dig an all Kyrian raid simply for the RP when we summon our stewards and have them regale us with song amidst our glorious battle with the vampire-folk.
Big true ive had a few fights on mythic + where it’s procd back to back to back and crit every time for huge damage
I hope this is a pun!
well, choose the right covenants or choose another guild or stay benched.
Their guild they could bench people for having a covenant at all if they wanted to
Great. I like the feel of serrated bone spike as well. That doesn’t make it good, or competitive vs the other abilities, and fleshcraft is just a badly designed skill even when it’s useful.
Trashlords are still Trashlords. Some classes are lucky their trashlord skill makes the covenant a viable choice. I probably should of swapped after the first week but I’m trying to wait out changes that we will inevitably see with how bad this covenant is represented.
The problem is each day I feel more and more like there isn’t a choice and I’m going to have to switch or I’m going to hit a ceiling where the covenant matters no matter how skilled I play. I started doing some 2s arena with my friend(neither of us have really played Arena since TBC/Wrath era), and Fleshcraft is pretty much unusable as a Rogue. If I take the time to try to cast it when the gates open it gives the other team way too much time to rush and catch me in stealth. It’s so funny that Marileth’s final ability looks like it’s being designed for PvP making you unable to be cc’d during the cast and after for a bit but it’s basically a trap choice.
The whole covenant is a trap choice with how badly fleshcraft, the majority of class skills and soulbinds are designed. Pelegos even after nerfs is broken with his mastery buff for Sub, especially in PvP. You can easily get off a two eviscerates with his massive mastery bonus probably getting upwards of 60-70% dmg bonus on it. Emeni does kind of the same thing with her agility buff, but using bonespike is a DPS loss in dance(especially cause it can’t crit, and the dot can’t crit) and the extra agi for an evis doesn’t make up for the dmg lost.
So am I supposed to be happy I’m playing the the worst covenant for my class? Venthyr is close to worst as well but at least their soulbinds are decent even if the Rogue skill is even more butt than Necro. Two choices for a class are utter garbage, but those of us who identify with, or in my case straight up HATE Kyrian and Night Fae are stuck with bad options because of a crappy system.
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The better the guild is, the less they need to enforce the rules.
In a good guild, everyone there is on the same page and raid spots are often incredibly competitive. If you don’t keep up your level of play, and that includes keeping up to date on theorycrafting, you’re going to get benched when you can’t compete with others who do.
It’s the guilds that want to become a guild good enough to be in that position that are strictest about the rules, because they don’t have that culture there inherently.
Yeah, you can’t exactly compare them side by side either, which makes feelycrafting a lot harder since the covenant lock means you’re prohibited from doing a dungeon as Venthyr and one as Night Fae to see the difference for yourself.
You have to rely on out-of-game tools and sources of information to truly understand the difference.
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And i don’t believe a word of your story… But hey it’s your story tell it how you want I guess
I wanted to get mad and yell at you for thinking theorycrafting and minmaxing makes a good guild.
And then I read this and it clicked that it was a post about guild culture and not playstyle commentary.
It’s early.