Benched for choosing the wrong covenant

Oedon-kilrogg · December 10, 2020, 2:41pm

Meh i had my druid join necrolords. The irony is funny and I like the ability. Despised the fairy land one

Talayon-proudmoore · December 10, 2020, 2:42pm

Did you actually real the entire post? It does sound allegedly super sexist.

Derka-wyrmrest-accord · December 10, 2020, 2:43pm

Your guild leader can eat my whole butt with a side of my taint. You’re better off elsewhere.

Gingee-moon-guard · December 10, 2020, 2:44pm

eat my whole butt…this cracked me up sooo much

Dillo-area-52 · December 10, 2020, 2:46pm

None of what you said changes the fact that soulbinds provide flexibilty within your covenant, nor does it change the same age-old reality that static numbers don’t account for nearly as much as people hope they do.

Smokewagon-deathwing · December 10, 2020, 2:46pm

Ian reminds me of the lex luther of the gaming community

Oedon-kilrogg · December 10, 2020, 2:47pm

I make it point to choose the weakest covenant for my toons, which coincidently is also the ability I liked the most. Cause I know blizz well enough. When they tune them ill be a getting a massive buff to mine while the ones so concerned over trivial stuff like the supposed “best” will get nerfed. Lol ill be far in my covs story and renown, they’ll be starting from scratch

Nexumus-argent-dawn · December 10, 2020, 2:47pm

Gingee:

Hello all, this is just going to be pretty much for those that RP and raid or care about class and character identity as it doesn’t have much impact on those that don’t find these things important.

Like the title says I was benched for choosing a covenant that was not the best for my class. Now I play on an RP server but also do heroic raiding. After my guild fell apart I found another and we meshed wonderfully. It was stated over and over again that since we all RP as well as raid that we could choose whatever covenant we wanted as it was said at one point by Ian that our choice wouldn’t make that big of an impact on performance. Well, we all know that ended up changing.

Long story short I main an affliction Warlock and Kyian is the best covenant for her but it makes absolutely no sense to me when it comes to character identity. I highly doubt the Kyrian are going to welcome someone who consorts with demons with open arms so I chose Venthyr for her which imo is much more fitting and while it is low on the list for performance it’s not the worst choice.

My raid leader lost his ever loving mind once I dinged and was asked who I went with. I reminded him that it was stated that since we RP with our characters that we could choose any of them. This only ticked him off further stating that
" I didn’t think Heroic raiders would need their handheld and told to pick a covant that wouldn’t end up hindering our progress" and called me selfish along with some pretty sexiest comments about me caring more about looking pretty than actually contributing to our success. (there was more said but this is already getting too long.) I was told I would need to change covenant ASAP to Kyrian or I could warm the bench with the rest of the women. I did end up leaving the guild sadly as just too many things were said. While I have a super thick skin and have been playing 11yrs I’m not going to tolerate crap like that.

Now my questions are:
1.Is it really that big of a deal for heroic raiding?
2. Why on earth did Blizz make Kyrians best for affliction locks if class identity is important (they have said this repeatedly)
3. Since I’m unwilling to switch her to Kyrian would it be in my best interest to just lvl another class I don’t RP with and try and find someone with an open Heroic raiding spot?
4. Are there even guilds out there who don’t have a full roster atm? I would think this early into the game good raiding guilds are already going to have their teams set.

I’m just kind of sad and frustrated. I really did enjoy that guild and we all got along so good which is why it was such a shock to hear our raid leader go off like that.

and this is why I <3 LFR even with ALL its problems.

Varadin-zuljin · December 10, 2020, 2:48pm

Depending on role I could see this, some covenant’s are really that good. In the grand-scheme of an entire raid / dungeon it might be a few % difference but for a particular pull or encounter it could REALLY make the difference.

Enthused-sargeras · December 10, 2020, 2:48pm

I’m laughing at all the people who fell for the bait.

Gingee-moon-guard · December 10, 2020, 2:49pm

I giggled so hard at this

Juuhachigou-tichondrius · December 10, 2020, 2:51pm

No matter how much I read the entire post I cant help but focus on sexiest sorry.

Abyssinian-khadgar · December 10, 2020, 2:52pm

Gingee:

My raid leader lost his ever loving mind once I dinged and was asked who I went with. I reminded him that it was stated that since we RP with our characters that we could choose any of them. This only ticked him off further stating that
" I didn’t think Heroic raiders would need their handheld and told to pick a covant that wouldn’t end up hindering our progress" and called me selfish along with some pretty sexiest comments about me caring more about looking pretty than actually contributing to our success. (there was more said but this is already getting too long.) I was told I would need to change covenant ASAP to Kyrian or I could warm the bench with the rest of the women. I did end up leaving the guild sadly as just too many things were said. While I have a super thick skin and have been playing 11yrs I’m not going to tolerate crap like that.

I really hope you filed some kind of report over that. That sounds like the kind of conversation that rightly should have him looking at a ‘banned from the game’ screen on his next log in attempt.

That noted.

I think these choices are a bit over-rated.

I am on my spec’s “ideal” choice, and I use my ability in a lot of heavy add pulls and it doesn’t seem to be all that much on impact.

What put me high up in my guild’s DPS is just doing the rest of my stuff right.

Getting my legendary and learning how to use it - that had a much bigger impact than the covenant ability.

Maybe it’s different for locks. I dunno. I suspect not.

Crunchydk-tichondrius · December 10, 2020, 2:54pm

Attaching role power and role type to covernents which should be a storyline/lore and cosmetic choice, messes with the whole choice situation.

Ion arrogantly thought people would love trading power for looks and cosmetics and lore. Actually im wrong, they knew players would hate it, otherwise no rip cord would exist. Like with corruption fixing azurite power (it didnt just made it all worse) they arrogantly moved forward…thinking players would LOVE sacrificing endgame power for lore/cosmetics.

Really is any of this better than just giving the classes their damn skill trees back and having a normal tiered gear chase where there isnt a bunch of side dish power systems, in no way connected to gear, to muddy the waters for what should be a simple and clear to the player endgame progression path to power.

Awkward-frostmourne · December 10, 2020, 2:55pm

Kyrian vs Night Fae basically boils down to “how much are you going to play Destro?”

Both are about the same in ST, Kyrian is slightly ahead in a perfectly played Patchwerk. The difference comes from AoE/Cleave where NF pulls ahead for Aff/Demo and Kyrian for Destro due to their ability to Havoc cleave it.

Travia-blackwater-raiders · December 10, 2020, 2:55pm

That is the kind of crap guild that never succeeds at anything anyway.

Oedon-kilrogg · December 10, 2020, 2:56pm

Its honestly not for any kind of content. The extra or lack there of of percentage is so miniscule that its not even worth paying attention to. For example I played the dark arbiter play style all through bfa. I was mocked heavily for it. The moment I got better gear they shut thier mouths. So my point is it’s not what covenant you chose, gear will always be the deciding factor for any role.

Gingee-moon-guard · December 10, 2020, 2:57pm

I don’t think you can report things said in discord. I’m still rather shocked this was said it was completely out of character for him. He had never remotely made a sexist comment before this and the fact it was over a covenant choice just for heroics has me baffled to this moment.

Grumar-bloodhoof · December 10, 2020, 2:59pm

Leave the guild bam fixed your problem. Not reading a mini novel cause you don’t know that other guild exist that can suit you better

Allolria-khazgoroth · December 10, 2020, 3:02pm

I think you missed the bit where I quoted “kyrian is best for affliction”, which is what we’re talking about. Not destro.

And the main raiding benefit that makes Night Fae better than any other covenant isn’t the tiny DPS discrepancy, it’s the mobility of blink fox. An in-combat blink/travelform/sprint for warlocks beats anything else. Night fae would have to be substantially worse DPS to make it not worth it.