If layering works close to sharding its detriment to the community building will be little. As long as you can communicate with your whole server. Trade with your whole server. I don’t get the issue in not being able to see everyone on your server during phase 1.
Sure it isn’t vanilla, and can be an issue. It is being overblown. There are bigger issues to focus on. I think blizzard would prefer we focus on layering though.
Relax turbo, all people do is complain no matter what Blizz does. You people are LUCKY to have this project at all. Get over layering. It is what it is. Or don’t play. No one cares.
I understand where you are coming from and I agree.
But it would have been nice not to have to even think that way after waiting so long for an official server.
See you August 26th!
If we don’t complain how will blizz know that we are displeased… Never mind that we’ll complain either way.
Be it layering, or the game not being as difficult as I remember from 15 years ago, when I was a kid and sucked at games. What if I want to complain that its not like my precious pservers. I have to let blizzard know something is wrong here… How do I do it without complaining?
Yea there is still some interaction between everyone on the server, just not all at the same time.
The people who end up staying on the server after layering is gone will have had opportunities to see each other in chat or groups. It is better in that way for the realm community than forcing people rigidly to specific layers.
Sooo…what are the other issues that layering is distracting from?
Oh yes there are bigger issues. No key ring is one. All them keys are going into your bag taking up precious bag slots.
You will also have huge wpvp battle and there won’t be any skeletons on the ground to tell the story.
What happens when population drops and you have ghost towns? Happened in vanilla even though the population rose steadily throughout the expansion. What happens when cross faction collusion is rampant? Cause it wasn’t then and is definitely not in the spirit of vanilla.
Just 2 of the top of my head that are bigger fish than layering.
Yea later on that that will have to be addressed, I have seen others mention it as well. I guess we have to cross that bridge when we come to it. Transfers, mergers, or “Connected Realms” are the options I know of. Somehow I don’t think the last one would go over well. Mergers wouldn’t either.
Is there any way to stop it?
Didn’t know that. Do you have a link?
Outside of mass bans I don’t see one. Not like it won’t be obvious who is and isn’t colluding. Not like blizzard won’t know, the playerbase will know, blizzard will know. Question is: Will they do anything?
Check the beta forums. I do every day to see if any new bugs have been reported and/or fixed.
How did Blizz stop server hopping in the group finder ?
It wasn’t through mass bans that’s for sure.
Edit: Blizzard made some type of change in Legion so if you hopped you saw nothing. They made it only work via your proximity to the group leader.
Of course they are connected.
Blizzard said that layering is done in phase two AND if they find servers are still full with high queue times they will open up new servers.
They are very much connected.
Did they stop that? That could also have an in game work around. Putting a timer or delay on layer hopping. Other alternatives as well.
Cross faction collusion occurs mainly out of game but has a very real effect in game. Can’t really stop it in game without mass bans. They already have in game measures to prevent it. So…
I did it in WOD. Got bored so I started doing that hopping to farm rare pets.
Never got any message, suspension, etc.
Legion changed it to proximity based.
Found it…patch 7.0.3 ended server hopping.
But we went the entire WOD with it enabled and quite heavily used.
https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/server-hop/pages/changes-to-cross-realm-in-legion
So an in game fix. Now give me an in game fix for cross faction collusion? The only thing I can think of is bans.
You can’t stop people from communicating outside of the game. They even encourage it at times. So unless they make it so classic will detect any 3rd party voice coms and flag their anti-cheat (which would go swimmingly I’m sure). Not much to be done in game about it.
Like what are these negatives exactly? I don’t get the hate for layering its you like you folks want a crappy launch on purpose for what to relive every specific detail of classic? cmon now that’s one thing I wouldn’t mind missing.
There’s complaints and there’s critiques. One is just an emotional outburst and the other actually has some constructive elements in it, in order to help improve the thing someone’s making.
What you see in the OP is someone who started out critizizing and now has moved on to the emotional post because people keep putting their fingers in their ears and just tell everyone to suck it up and deal with an inferior product, one that’s not even advertised for right now (we better see some promotions for classic soon that will have layering described as a new feature to it, as it might end up being one).
He clearly cares a lot more about receiving a good game, the same one they announced to make, more than you do. Fine. Not everyone has the same standards.
But at least have some damn decency about your differences, and let people discuss the game on a literal game discussion forum without attempting to shut down discussion with your vile, non constructive input just cause you don’t like his thoughts. You know you’re not helping your side of the argument at all acting like that, right?
There’s a thread on this. Lists all the benefits of layering and how you can become a classic wow millionaire before phase 2 comes out.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/best-parts-of-layering/194680/56