Thanks for letting us know.
You can expect them to then likely split servers.
If they are smart they will attempt to make the layers persistent when you’re off line.
This way the layers in phase 1 become more or less their own server and this way they can break up the “servers” into smaller ones that are indeed 100% static.
I am not particularly keen on splitting servers. I get why it could help, but lots of potential issues IMO, like friends being separated. I think optional transfers are better if necessary.
Uh…ok? Bye?
Good… less competitions day one.
That’s the problem. People hyperbolic layering by equating it to what they know. Layering is not CRZ. It’s well within reason that Blizzard can make the ability to transition between layers much less manipulatable.
At this point, snarky comments along the lines of “bye Felicia” or any variation thereof should honestly be considered trolling or flaming. Such comments contribute nothing of constructive value to the conversation and serve no other purpose than to belittle and ruffle the feathers of the target of such posts and for the people making those posts to do nothing more than stroke their own tribalistic consumer ego.
I think it would behoove us as a gaming community to massively tone down the rampant tribalism and instead of bombarding the OP with snark, perhaps we should ask the OP to elaborate on their concerns/grievances and also assist them in articulating their thoughts in the most constructive manner. Let’s not wave our blind uncritical brand loyalty and unthinking consumerism around as a badge of honor. We’re better than that. After all, we’re all consumers, here, we should all be united and looking out for our own collective interests.
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Yeah kinda a problem of going with these mega severs.
IF they’re really sharp they will attempt to make the layers semi static so that entire guilds will only ever see a single layer. Even friends lists could be handled like this.
This way once the phase 2 ships and blizzard is forced to segment the mega servers they can then do the job easily.
During phase 1 the layering can be used to create these pseudo servers, and ready them for final state in phase 2.
At least, that’s how I would handle it.
Most of the people complaing about the layering are “Noobs” never made a single lv 60 at least on a private server.
When you make a lv 60 you understand perfectly why layering is necessary
See you on September 27th.
I never said or implied that layering is sharding.
I was referring to the hopping.
When CRZ first came out players were using the LFG tool to realm hop to farm rares/pets/resources. They were going into raids groups, dungeon groups and questing groups and everyone complained. There were also groups formed specifically for realm hopping. I joined those groups to farm rare hunter pets.
That is what I was referring to…the HOPPING.
No, they were not you cannot realm hop with CRZ, sharding yes, CRZ no.
Not today but you could when it first came out.
CRZ allowed for realm hopping because the walls came down.
2016-2017…even addons were made to help you so you didn’t hop to the same server twice.
Maybe saying “server hop” is a better terminology.
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2016918-Server-Hop-Why-is-nobody-furious-about-this
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im gonna take your word for it, because you would not lie to me and it really doesn’t matter:O)
Technically you’d delay Phase 2 until the population issue was fixed.
Once the population has reached a stable number and the tourist phases appears over then they can start using peeling off 1 layer at a time and using ques and free limited X-fers to balance the populations between low and high pop servers, until all the layers are removed. If absolutely nessecary they can even make a few new servers if the population is too high on all servers.
And then once everything population wise is fixed they can disable layering entirely when Phase 2 launches. Since functionally it will already be disabled as they’ll have parred things down to 2 layers near the end. (and if nessecary simple merge those two layers. A 5-6k server is tolerable as long as it’s not at launch and with “new game” hype driving people to play a lot more than normal.
See you on august 27th right alongside everyone else who got in an uproar over trivial stuff, logging in to classic alongside all the rest of us.
cya. you wont be missed… you do promise, right? you won’t show up on the 27 with all the other people pretending layering is a big deal?
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I concur, it is going to be a problem, They are under estimating the retention of players.
Layering also doesnt address the starting bottleneck of 500 players in zones and sitting at quests that should take 5 minutes for an hour or more.
But overall the idea of layering is solid, it’s a good concept, it’s just that not that many people will be quitting.
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meh, ive learned to live with layering for the launch. If it’s present for 2-3 months plus+ once everyone has leveled to 60 then I’ll quit. It’s funny how many people ride blizzard’s jock because they want to be against the boomer vanilla nochange crowd when they aren’t even thinking about what they’re defending. Layering looks like to me a business decision based on dollars and cents. They want this game released and maintained using as few resources as possible. It makes sense and I would do the same thing if I was number crunching at Blizzard. Funny how the fanboys don’t see it that way.
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Don’t think they are gonna delay phase 2.
Pretty sure if the population is high still they will just create new servers and offer free xfers.
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