Are there? Let’s have a conversation about it and find out, rather than make all our decisions on an assumption.
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That’s ridiculous. We have goblins to build teleporters. We have gnomes to build gondolas. These plus flying mounts for spirit res in those areas take care of all of those issues. Its a little bit of extra development, but not much. All that stuff already exists in the game.
I never suggested adding FPs. I WOULD never suggest such a thing. It diminishes the world.
Go look at the countless TBC threads and you will see a LOT of people in favor of #nochanges. All it takes is a simple forum search. Sorry to tell you this, but you are wasting your time and energy trying to convince players otherwise
I have read such threads. But that doesn’t mean that is truly a consensus. If you can’t have a conversation about these things, you will never reach a true consensus. Shutting down the conversation only brings about a (potentially) false one.
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I really don’t know why people keep asking for TBC servers. Unlike the Vanilla content and world, all of the TBC content is still in the retail game–zones, quests, dungeons, raids, factions, etc.–if someone is wanting to play it. TBC wasn’t treated like more recent expansions where much of the cool content is removed after a new expansion was released.
LOL the TBC thing came about when people approached the devs during an AMA about this Classic+ nonsense. TBC was their response instead. They don’t want to have to take the time/resources and man hours it would take to put out content for Classic in the old vanilla style. It’s too much of a gamble and may do more harm than good regarding the player base. TBC being put on the table is what started all of that discussion
Here’s the link TBC is on the table!
It wouldn’t take all that much, especially if the community does most of the work by having a conversation about it.
Blizzard is not afraid to gamble. TBC is itself a niche market, no matter how you look at it. What I am talking about may appeal to an even larger market, especially if it was born in a community driven conversation.
Sure, and this conversation is certainly in that vein. This is an attempt at what I consider a better game, a community driven game. Do you honestly think Blizzard woulnd’t consider a Classic+ version of TBC if the community came to a majority agreement that it would be a better path? (I’m not saying the community would, but they can’t possibly if we insist on shutting down any conversation about it).
Why don’t you address my points, and give reasons for or against it and lets discuss it instead of giving me all these reasons why it would never happen. The list of things that Blizzard said “would never happen” that happened is very, very long.
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There is nothing I can say to you about this subject that I haven’t said already. If you choose to keep your blinders on and remain oblivious to the vast amount of players who not only do NOT want this hypothetical Classic+ content, they also want TBC in all of it’s glory, untouched, WITH flying intact in all of the TBC discussion threads that already exist, then idk what to tell you. We can talk about this until we’re blue in the face, but it’s not going to change the fact that there are more in favor of TBC than Classic+. As Spock used to say in the Star Trek movies…“The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few”
I’m just going to agree to disagree and leave it at that
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You are saying things are they way they are. I am saying, I don’t think we really KNOW, because conversations keep getting shut down. I am asking you to not be one of those that shuts down the conversation.
I’d rather we discussed and debated my points. That is the only real path to consensus.
Wow, it’s almost like people don’t like the idea of classic+.
The interest in TBC would be much larger then it is for Classic, despite whatever fake argument you can drudge up.
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I read they are already looking into TBC as an add on but want to make sure they do it with the classic players acceptance. the article said something about keeping classic style and feel such as no adding LFG like in Wotlk if the added Wotlk and revamp everything so if doesn’t marginalize previous content.
i.e. Power creep
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I’ve read a lot of players comment that if they progress Classic into TBC they will quit. If they don’t keep it as a separate client with it’s own set of servers they will lose many of the subs they just regained
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Impossible unless you remove Outland and 60-70.
I want Nagrand, and Zangarmarsh and Shadowmoon Valley. I want flying at 70. I want the Netherwing grind that I cursed mightily while doing on 2 toons. I want ridiculous attunements. I want Karazhan. I want Vashj and Kael restored to their glory. I want rep grinds to even get into heroic dungeons. I want to commit B&E on the Black Temple and crawl up through the sewers. I want to roll my eyes at Kael’s “setback” in Magister’s Terrace. I might even want to kite Veridas to Shat, aggro A’dal and kill AFK players in the banks. (This is just a rumor, and you can’t prove anything)
Basically, in a few years, I’m going to want TBC, warts and all. No changes.
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Citation needed
I’ve never bought an expansion for WoW. I stayed at 60 during BC and Wrath. It was the best game I ever played.
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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/q-a-compilation-wow-classic-development-team-ama/260760
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Ok so they said that progressing to TBC would be easier, but not necessarily saying that it’s their intention. That much is good to hear. They’d more easily be able to retain players by making it a separate client and servers for TBC rather than going the progression route though. Lots of players have already stated that if Classic gets turned into TBC rather than being independent of it, that they will quit
Having a paid character copy service to TBC servers would be a smart move by Blizzard.
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Yeah, why ruin OG Classic for people (again).
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